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7/30/2013 5:55:45 AM EDT
Well I am having engaging the grip safety on my 1911 when I am shooting the pistol with the thumbs forward grip.  I fit the grip safety yesterday and made it a little easier to be set off, but I seem to be putting almost no pressure on the grip safety when holding the pistol unless I death grip the pistol. Any ideas?
7/30/2013 6:02:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Electrical tape.

Just disable it if your having issues.

I have personally never had an issue disengaging the grip safety.

ETA did you install the grip safety yourself? You may not have fit the tab correctly if so. You can also just grind the entire tab off as well
7/30/2013 6:17:02 AM EDT
[#2]
What gun?  What grip safety?  Carry gun or competition?
7/30/2013 6:36:42 AM EDT
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I would rather not disable the grip safety all together.

Its a RIA standard 1911 I replaced the GS with a drop in Wilson, I also changed out the hammer and the thumb safety.  I have been slowly working on removing material from the grip safety to make it engage quicker but I dont want to take off too much. I also have been bending slightly the sear spring. Its going to be a carry gun/home defense gun.
7/30/2013 6:40:31 AM EDT
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I find a "speed bump" type GS is almost mandatory for reliable deactivation with a thumbs-forward hold.  I also adjust the tab to "sensitize" it so that no more than 1/16" of movement is required to disengage it.

If that doesn't cut it, you can easily (and reversibly) disable the GS by modifying an old shock buff.  



The shock buff sits atop the mainspring housing and holds the GS in disengaged position.
7/30/2013 6:44:26 AM EDT
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I would rather not disable the grip safety all together.

Its a RIA standard 1911 I replaced the GS with a drop in Wilson, I also changed out the hammer and the thumb safety.  I have been slowly working on removing material from the grip safety to make it engage quicker but I dont want to take off too much. I also have been bending slightly the sear spring. Its going to be a carry gun/home defense gun.
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Sounds like you havnt removed enough material.
7/30/2013 6:46:20 AM EDT
[#6]
if you are not into aesthetics, this Devcon stainless ( metal patch and fill) was done at least 15 years ago on my Para

7/30/2013 6:55:46 AM EDT
[#7]
Alright I will just keep at it and remove more material. I am getting real good at taking a part and putting back together this 1911 I have done it so much fitting the thing

EDIT: Mine is much larger than a 1/16 of an inch so I will try to get it better and if that doesn't work I will move to more drastic measures. Also, do yall think a flat or arched main spring housing would be better for putting pressure on the GS with thumbs forward? Right now I am using a flat.
7/30/2013 7:07:40 AM EDT
[#8]
I have a Para P12 that I cannot consistently engage the grip safety holding thumbs forward.
My palm forms a pocket that allows the GS to disengage.
A thick bump of rubber glued to it solved the issue until I can install an aftermarket GS.
7/30/2013 7:15:19 AM EDT
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I am making progress , I filed down the sides of the GS to make sure it wasn't rubbing on the frame as well as weakened the leaf spring and filed down the GS so it engaged sooner. Working much better already. Thanks for the help guys.
7/30/2013 7:21:20 AM EDT
[#10]
In some instances no amount of sensitizing will help.  Whether it's the build of your hands, your grip, or a combination, sometimes nothing will help except deactivation.  

As for sensitizing, you don't have to keep taking the entire gun apart.  Disassemble the lower, and reassemble without the hammer/sear/disconnector and grips in place.  That way you can look through the frame cutout under the grip panel on the left side of the frame and see the finger of the grip safety engaging the back of the trigger bow.  If you go too far removing metal, you can take material off the ledge on the mainspring housing, or the corresponding ledges on the bottom of the grip safety to allow more swing out.
7/30/2013 7:22:37 AM EDT
[#11]
ken_mays, that is way cool.  I've seen a lot of tricks over the last 25 years of smithing 1911s, but I've never seen that one.  Thanks!
7/30/2013 7:38:11 AM EDT
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ken_mays, that is way cool.  I've seen a lot of tricks over the last 25 years of smithing 1911s, but I've never seen that one.  Thanks!
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We can both thank Dane Burns for that one  
7/30/2013 9:01:24 AM EDT
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I am alittle confused on what exactly that is and what it does. Do you mind breaking it down dummy style for me. I know its a MSH but does it block the GS from releasing?
7/30/2013 9:19:26 AM EDT
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The GS has a lip on the bottom that stops against the lip on top of the MSH.  The shock buffer sits between the lips, holding the GS in.
7/30/2013 9:52:13 AM EDT
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ken_mays, that is way cool.  I've seen a lot of tricks over the last 25 years of smithing 1911s, but I've never seen that one.  Thanks!






We can both thank Dane Burns for that one  
I don't think so.  People were putting shock buffs on mainspring housings the day they came out which was long before that sorry hack Burns came on the scene.


 
7/30/2013 10:35:23 AM EDT
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I don't think so.  People were putting shock buffs on mainspring housings the day they came out which was long before that sorry hack Burns came on the scene.  
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ken_mays, that is way cool.  I've seen a lot of tricks over the last 25 years of smithing 1911s, but I've never seen that one.  Thanks!


We can both thank Dane Burns for that one  
I don't think so.  People were putting shock buffs on mainspring housings the day they came out which was long before that sorry hack Burns came on the scene.  


LOL, I don't doubt it, but that was the first time I read about it anywhere.
7/30/2013 1:30:50 PM EDT
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The GS has a lip on the bottom that stops against the lip on top of the MSH.  The shock buffer sits between the lips, holding the GS in.
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Ah gotcha. Makes sense.
7/30/2013 3:27:09 PM EDT
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I need a memory bump on mine, I don't have enough meat in my little pussy hands to get reliable GS release with the thumbs forward/on top of the safety style hold and I don't want to disable it either.
7/30/2013 6:49:12 PM EDT
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I need a memory bump on mine, I don't have enough meat in my little pussy hands to get reliable GS release with the thumbs forward/on top of the safety style hold and I don't want to disable it either.
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I am in the same boat , and I still had to build up the memory bump.
7/30/2013 9:04:39 PM EDT
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7/31/2013 4:19:12 PM EDT
[#21]
I have always had the Ed Brown safety just filed off to where it doesn't do anything but fill the back of the frame. I see no use or need for the grip safety.
8/1/2013 7:37:03 AM EDT
[#22]
Sounds like you would love The Answer from Novak

8/1/2013 9:53:52 AM EDT
[#23]
when 3 gun became popular again in the mid 90s, I reactivated the safeties on both my single stack and wide body.... just in case... later switching to a retention holster also