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12/26/2011 11:06:17 PM EDT
I read somewhere awhile back that springfield custom shop had a package for the "professional upgrade" or something like it, where you send in your gun and they fix it up like the professional. Do they still have this? Im wondering because I have a well-used mil-spec that I would like to change up. I didn't see anything about it on their order sheet and figured i would ask around before I called and tried to explain what I'm looking for. thanks
12/27/2011 1:15:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.
12/27/2011 7:12:54 AM EDT
[#2]
They still offer the Professional Package at it's somewhere around $2200.  

From what I understand, this package was taken off the worksheet because most people don't see it as an economical option when you can order a real Pro for $2650.

Once your Mil-Spec is done, the only difference between it and a Pro would be, obviously the roll-marks, but also the frames and slides that are used on the Pro come from Brazil with oversized rail cuts for hand fitting.  Your Mil-Spec would be tightened up by the shop though.

Here's a list of features the Professional comes with to get an idea of what the upgrades would be...

Features:
Custom fit slide to national match frame
Custom fit match barrel & bushing
Polished feed ramp & fully throated barrel
Springfield Custom tool steel match hammer & sear
Fitted speed trigger w/custom tuned 4 ½ lb. trigger pull
Tuned for total reliability
Lowered & flared ejection port
Tuned & polished extractor
Standard 1911-A1 recoil spring guide
Custom fitted beavertail grip safety
Custom fitted ambidextrous thumb safety
Low mount Novak rear sight w/matching dovetail front sight
3 dot tritium inserts in sights
Custom fit S&A magazine well, matched to bevel on frame
Hand checkered 20LPI front strap checkering
Checkered Cocobolo grips
“Carry Bevel” complete pistol
“Black T” finish complete pistol
6- 7 round magazines w/slam pads
“Professional” model markings on slide



12/27/2011 7:22:39 AM EDT
[#3]
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.
12/27/2011 8:38:06 AM EDT
[#4]
For the amount of money you are looking to spend on the Pro package, just buy another pistol.
Your milspec might look like a Pro, but it will never be one.
12/27/2011 9:38:52 AM EDT
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I read somewhere awhile back that springfield custom shop had a package for the "professional upgrade" or something like it, where you send in your gun and they fix it up like the professional. Do they still have this? Im wondering because I have a well-used mil-spec that I would like to change up. I didn't see anything about it on their order sheet and figured i would ask around before I called and tried to explain what I'm looking for. thanks


Why not just buy the Pro?
12/27/2011 10:17:09 AM EDT
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.






Actually at one point SA marketed the PRO as the TRP PRO.
12/27/2011 10:45:11 AM EDT
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.






Actually at one point SA marketed the PRO as the TRP PRO.


True, but I was talking about present day models offered by SA...
12/27/2011 2:27:36 PM EDT
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.






Actually at one point SA marketed the PRO as the TRP PRO.


True, but I was talking about present day models offered by SA...


A friend of mine has one that is a Bureau Model.
ETA, now if he would just shoot it.
12/27/2011 11:13:50 PM EDT
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.


Actually at one point SA marketed the PRO as the TRP PRO.


Yeah, I don't follow current SA nomenclature, but when I last looked (years ago ) there were two TRPs - the TRP, which was higher end assembly line stuff, and the TRP Pro...which was basically a hand made/fitted TRP with some upgrades; which I guess would alternately be known as the Bureau Model, or the Professional, or...etc...

My apologies if I confused some things in SA's line around, they keep changing things on me
12/28/2011 6:42:09 AM EDT
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Yes, if you go to Springfield's web site and under the Products menu, there's a "Custom Shop" choice. Download the 1911 Custom Worksheet from there, and you should be all set.

You can also specify custom touches on top of any package you select.

Edited to add - their "professional" guns are basically hand built; if you send it in for work and select the TRP package, you're effectively getting the TRP Pro package on your gun.


The TRP and the Professional are two totally different guns.  The TRP is a production gun and is basically a loaded model with upgrades.  The Professional is a custom shop gun from start to finish.

The Professional also has different parts than the TRP, as specified by the FBI, which include: Wilson Combat Ambi-Safety, S&A magwell, standard guide rod, SA tool steel hammer and sear, Black-T finish... etc.


Actually at one point SA marketed the PRO as the TRP PRO.


Yeah, I don't follow current SA nomenclature, but when I last looked (years ago ) there were two TRPs - the TRP, which was higher end assembly line stuff, and the TRP Pro...which was basically a hand made/fitted TRP with some upgrades; which I guess would alternately be known as the Bureau Model, or the Professional, or...etc...

My apologies if I confused some things in SA's line around, they keep changing things on me


The FBI made them change the name
12/28/2011 8:05:41 AM EDT
[#11]
dang I was thinking that would be about half the price of the actual pistol, not 2200 bucks... The only reason i wanted to do it is because I wanted the accuracy, reliability, and fit to be along the lines of the professional. Iv shot a couple hundred rounds through a family members and its by Far my favorite 1911 iv ever shot. Iv got 2 other 1911s so ill probably just keep the mil-spec with what I got on her already
12/28/2011 10:25:12 AM EDT
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dang I was thinking that would be about half the price of the actual pistol, not 2200 bucks... The only reason i wanted to do it is because I wanted the accuracy, reliability, and fit to be along the lines of the professional. Iv shot a couple hundred rounds through a family members and its by Far my favorite 1911 iv ever shot. Iv got 2 other 1911s so ill probably just keep the mil-spec with what I got on her already


That was why I said Professional, if you watch the EE and other sites, you will see lightly used ones show up for around 1500.-2000.00, then you have a honest Professional.
12/28/2011 3:16:27 PM EDT
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dang I was thinking that would be about half the price of the actual pistol, not 2200 bucks... The only reason i wanted to do it is because I wanted the accuracy, reliability, and fit to be along the lines of the professional. Iv shot a couple hundred rounds through a family members and its by Far my favorite 1911 iv ever shot. Iv got 2 other 1911s so ill probably just keep the mil-spec with what I got on her already


That was why I said Professional, if you watch the EE and other sites, you will see lightly used ones show up for around 1500.-2000.00, then you have a honest Professional.


that is mighty optimistic
12/28/2011 5:34:23 PM EDT
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dang I was thinking that would be about half the price of the actual pistol, not 2200 bucks... The only reason i wanted to do it is because I wanted the accuracy, reliability, and fit to be along the lines of the professional. Iv shot a couple hundred rounds through a family members and its by Far my favorite 1911 iv ever shot. Iv got 2 other 1911s so ill probably just keep the mil-spec with what I got on her already


That was why I said Professional, if you watch the EE and other sites, you will see lightly used ones show up for around 1500.-2000.00, then you have a honest Professional.


that is mighty optimistic


I got one last year 50 rounds, 1500.00
12/29/2011 11:13:03 AM EDT
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I got one last year 50 rounds, 1500.00


Was it listed on any boards?  I have never seen them listed below 2K
12/29/2011 11:49:10 AM EDT
[#16]
It's cheaper to buy either the TRP or the Pro than to get the upgrade. The current price list on the SA custom work page is basically retail for the gun. So, sending your gun in = giving up the cost of the donor gun.
12/29/2011 9:22:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Hang out for a used Pro.
The cachet of a Pro is that it's a Pro. It will keep its value. The Pro upgrades, not so much. There's been one on Gunbroker for quite a while with no takers at a price that would have had a real Pro snapped up in a heartbeat.
12/29/2011 9:34:08 PM EDT
[#18]
sounds good thanks. I thought I was looking at 600-700 bucks for the upgrde! nevermind! guess I will have to go ahead and buy a pro (10...20 years from now... )
Appreciate the advice
12/30/2011 3:27:29 AM EDT
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sounds good thanks. I thought I was looking at 600-700 bucks for the upgrde! nevermind! guess I will have to go ahead and buy a pro (10...20 years from now... )
Appreciate the advice


Yeah, I was going to send in a Loaded Parkerized for a TRP upgrade until I saw $895. That would put the cost way over what a new TRP would be.