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9/25/2011 2:04:26 PM EDT
I bought a stainless Valor a few weeks back. I have shot it around 400 rounds so far. I tell you this gun is just  boring reliable to shoot. It shoots WWB where you point it, never jams, mag after mag. It is a vast improvement over any colt that I ever owned. I can't see how any upper end pistol could be better. Anyone else have one and have this experience? The only bad thing about this, is now I want a black one to go with it
9/25/2011 4:43:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I wouldn't get a black one.   If you plan on changing your existing Valor, get that finished, then get it Hardhatted black from Severns custom.  

That's what I plan on doing.  That bead blasted finish won't last long on the stainless. It gets worn smooth, looks like scratches.    Mine looks like it's been through WWIII.   That gun was meant to be reblasted refinished in a hard melonite when you were done modding it.

No point in making people buy the expensive $300 duty coat treatment if we're just going to hack the safety, undercut the trigger guard, cut serrations in the top of the slide and back of the slide, etc.etc.

I'm changing my sights, and I cut the thumb safety paddle down a bit.    I'm considering undercutting the trigger guard myself and flushing the back of the slide.   But I may skip that.   Been a fun build so far.    

Yesterday I added a V cut to the grip safeties blocking part so that I can remove the grip safety after the thumb safety, without rmoving the mainsring housing pin or housing, to check/lube the guts of the pistol and make sure no carry lint or sand is in there messing things up.   I sensitized my grip safety quite a bit a while ago.  

I allready spent some time stoneing the sides of the guts a bit smoother, some finishing touches that the factory deson't get to do.  Not that any of that was truely needed.

If my day sight setup goes in well, and I get this thing refinished nice, t his gun will be in Ed Brown territory.



How tight is yours?


9/25/2011 4:58:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Mine is meant to look something like this soon, hopefully:

9/25/2011 5:07:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Mine is fairly tight, nothing like some of the new Baer pistols. I am not a fan of the front slide serrations. I like the clean, no safety warning bullshit, look of the Valor. You told me a month or so back that this was the gun to get, and you were right. I have not taken it apart yet, I take some slip 2000 with me and give the rails a little shot on each. Not one hiccup, issue since taken out of the box. I do use the Wilson 47 mags, they are so smooth. Best .45 that I ever owned.
9/26/2011 5:43:23 AM EDT
[#4]
I just got mine last week and haven't shot it yet. The only thing I'm planning on changing is the thumb safety. I'm a lefty and need the ambi version. I'm guessing the Ed Brown extended safety is the same size as the stock version. After that I'll eventually get the hardhat treatment from Severns.



I'm thoroughly impressed with the value of this 1911. This is my first true 1911 and I think I made a great pick.
9/26/2011 7:34:35 AM EDT
[#5]
I think the Ed Brown Ambi safety would be the best one to get.  The paddle is about a mm lower than the Valor paddle which is nice.   But the paddle is huge.   I trimmed most of the rear of the paddle off on my EB safety that I put on my Kimber.

ETA: More gratuitous pics, OD Alumagrips:
9/26/2011 8:55:15 AM EDT
[#6]
I wish I could say I've got stone cold reliability with my 1911... but I can't. I wouldn't trust mine to weigh papers down because it would fail me... piece of shit Taurus.
9/26/2011 9:30:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I wish I could say I've got stone cold reliability with my 1911... but I can't. I wouldn't trust mine to weigh papers down because it would fail me... piece of shit Taurus.


I know the feeling.  My first 1911 was a Springfield and it made me loose faith in the 1911 platform.  I hope to have a Valor soon........
9/26/2011 10:12:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Hey, I was in your shoes several times, always liked the platform, but never had a gun out of the box that worked. I bought one of the first Kimbers. It would always jam a few times,was told it needed this, needs a Wilson mag, needs polished, etc, sold that pig. I played with plastic guns for years. Then I found the Valor, I was afraid to buy it at first, remembering those earlier adventures with my other 1911's. This gun worked right out of the box, I carefully wiped out the bore with a plastic rod and some Hoppes 9, oiled it lightly with slip 2000. I have shot 400 rounds or so through it in the last few weekends. (never taken it apart) I do oil it lightly after 50 to 60 rounds. This gun will shoot point of aim and has not missed a beat. Make sure you buy a 2011 model was what I was told, I did and it has been a good one.
9/26/2011 10:36:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I think the Ed Brown Ambi safety would be the best one to get.  The paddle is about a mm lower than the Valor paddle which is nice.   But the paddle is huge.   I trimmed most of the rear of the paddle off on my EB safety that I put on my Kimber.

ETA: More gratuitous pics, OD Alumagrips:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01469.jpg


Do you know what slide release that is?
9/26/2011 11:59:26 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I think the Ed Brown Ambi safety would be the best one to get.  The paddle is about a mm lower than the Valor paddle which is nice.   But the paddle is huge.   I trimmed most of the rear of the paddle off on my EB safety that I put on my Kimber.

ETA: More gratuitous pics, OD Alumagrips:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01469.jpg


Do you know what slide release that is?


Slide release is a Greider.

pics of my Valor with Brown stepbrother... so close, it's scary.....


9/26/2011 12:03:09 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I think the Ed Brown Ambi safety would be the best one to get.  The paddle is about a mm lower than the Valor paddle which is nice.   But the paddle is huge.   I trimmed most of the rear of the paddle off on my EB safety that I put on my Kimber.

ETA: More gratuitous pics, OD Alumagrips:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss290/zerodefect2533/DSC01469.jpg


Do you know what slide release that is?


Slide release is a Greider.

pics of my Valor with Brown stepbrother... so close, it's scary.....

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100410/IMG_2822/web.jpg
http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100410/IMG_2817/web.jpg


Thank you! I want one......bad.
Beautiful 1911's as well!
9/26/2011 2:22:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Valor parts list:    (anybody know the blanks?)
   
Grieder Slide stop
DW forged thumb safety
EB Grip safety
_______ hammer?
_______ sear?
_______ disconnector?
frame and slide both have markings similar to EB.
Hienie front sight, .140" x .125"   (Springfield 1911 cut)
Hienie Ledge rear sight, .325" x .150"   (Novak, 10-8 cut)
Ed Brown Main Spring housing
GI guide rod
________ thick bushing?
________trigger?
EB recoil plug
EB Magrelease
Checkmate mags
________pins and plungers?  look like mre EB parts to me.  Or at least really good copies.
VZ double diamond slim grips
________ barrel?
9/26/2011 2:33:41 PM EDT
[#13]
I believe the barrel bushing is EGW.
9/26/2011 3:06:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks.

Valor parts list:(anybody know the blanks?)

Grieder Slide stop
DW forged thumb safety
EB Grip safety
Dw bar stock hammer
DW bar stock sear
DW bar stock  disconnector
frame and slide both have markings similar to EB.
Hienie front sight, .140" x .125" (Springfield 1911 cut)
Hienie Ledge rear sight, .325" x .150" (Novak, 10-8 cut)
Ed Brown Main Spring housing
GI guide rod
EGW thick bushing
________trigger?
_______ recoil plug ?
DW bar stock mag release (EB look a like copy)
Checkmate mags
________pins and plungers? look likes more EB parts to me. Or at least really good copies.
VZ double diamond slim grips
________ barrel?
Wolff springs
________ firing pin (looks like a 9mm pin)?
________ extractor?
________ ejector?
9/26/2011 3:35:12 PM EDT
[#15]
i love my valor, too.
9/26/2011 4:23:23 PM EDT
[#16]
I think the trigger is a Greider. Looks very similar to the one in the Brownells catalog.
9/26/2011 4:45:36 PM EDT
[#17]
Dave Severns may have a parts list memorized, though he may not want to say what they all are.
9/26/2011 6:43:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Love my Valor.  It is my first and only 1911.  As I have gotten older I've learned I would rather just save longer and get exactly what I want than get something sooner and still wish for something else.  I love my Valor.  Point, shoot, bang right on target every time.
9/26/2011 7:42:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I bought a stainless Valor a few weeks back. I have shot it around 400 rounds so far. I tell you this gun is just  boring reliable to shoot. It shoots WWB where you point it, never jams, mag after mag. It is a vast improvement over any colt that I ever owned. I can't see how any upper end pistol could be better. Anyone else have one and have this experience? The only bad thing about this, is now I want a black one to go with it


How about hollowpoints?
9/26/2011 9:16:05 PM EDT
[#20]
Mine fed Winchester 230gn JHP perfectly.  I haven't had a chance to try other JHP's, but I don't forsee any problems.  

The mags that came with it didn't allways lock the slide back, but Tripp and Wilson mags work flawlessly.
9/26/2011 10:30:24 PM EDT
[#21]
Damn, do they drop the ejection port to a full 375 thousandths?   Nice pistol, supposed to be as good as other semi-custom guns like Wilson.
9/27/2011 2:02:12 AM EDT
[#22]
there was a video posted of Dave Severns shooting a bunch of high end guns, iirc. whoever it was, the valor shot the best.

i've never had a bad 1911. ever. they've all run well and short well and all have been springers. of course, none have run as well as my valor!
9/27/2011 4:28:14 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Thanks.

Valor parts list:(anybody know the blanks?)

Grieder Slide stop
DW forged thumb safety
EB Grip safety
Dw bar stock hammer
DW bar stock sear
DW bar stock  disconnector
frame and slide both have markings similar to EB.
Hienie front sight, .140" x .125" (Springfield 1911 cut)
Hienie Ledge rear sight, .325" x .150" (Novak, 10-8 cut)
Ed Brown Main Spring housing
GI guide rod
EGW thick bushing
________trigger?
_______ recoil plug ?
DW bar stock mag release (EB look a like copy)
Checkmate mags
________pins and plungers? look likes more EB parts to me. Or at least really good copies.
VZ double diamond slim grips
________ barrel?
Wolff springs
________ firing pin (looks like a 9mm pin)?
________ extractor?
________ ejector?


I have a feeling that both frames and slides come from Remsport.  I'm 99% certain the DW's do.



9/27/2011 7:49:11 AM EDT
[#24]
The DW Valor is a very well fit 1911 with high quality parts. I''ve fed a variety of 230gr. ammo through it without a single malfunction.

Ball ammo:  WWB, Federal maroon box, RWS, Remington UMC, Herter's and S&B.

HP ammo: Federal HST, Rangers and PDX-1, generic Remington HP and generic WWB HP.

I've used a wide variety of mags that include, stock 8rd Checkmate, 8rd McCormick Power, imitation 8rd McCormick Power, Colt 8 & 7 rd , 8rd Kimpro Tac mags, 8rd Wilson 47D, 8rd Wilson EMT, 7rd Metalform and stock 7rd Kimber mag.

I really don't see a reason to pay any more for a 1911 unless I want additions like a recessed crown, french boarders or a special finish for example.

9/27/2011 11:16:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Damn, do they drop the ejection port to a full 375 thousandths?   Nice pistol, supposed to be as good as other semi-custom guns like Wilson.


Yes the ejection window is huge, even bigger than my Kimbees by about another mm or two.   And it's a cool looking squared shape.
9/27/2011 11:27:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Valor parts list:(updated some more)

Grieder Slide stop
DW forged thumb safety
EB Grip safety
Dw bar stock hammer
DW bar stock sear
DW bar stock disconnector
Remsport Frame  (Daewoo Forging)
Remsport Slide     (Daewoo Froging)
Hienie front sight, .140" x .125" (Springfield 1911 cut)
Hienie Ledge rear sight, .325" x .150" (Novak, 10-8 cut)
EB Main Spring housing
GI guide rod
EGW thick bushing
________trigger?
_______ recoil plug ?
DW bar stock mag release (EB look a like copy)
Checkmate mags
________pins and plungers? look likes more EB parts to me. Or at least really good copies.
VZ double diamond slim grips
________ barrel?
Wolff springs
________ firing pin (looks like a 9mm pin)?
________ extractor?
________ ejector?