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2/24/2011 7:35:41 PM EDT
The wife doesn't like shooting my Kimber, says the recoil is to heavy.  She's ok with my H&K USP .45.  Is their anything I can do to the gun to help?  Was looking at compensators but I've heard mixed reviews.  

Thanks
2/24/2011 7:56:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Surest way too, really the only way too recoil reduction is to reload. Get your fps down to 750 fps and you'll have a completely different gun.
2/24/2011 9:06:21 PM EDT
[#2]
shoot 185 grain bullets or lighter
2/24/2011 9:47:14 PM EDT
[#3]
.38 Super.
2/24/2011 10:00:30 PM EDT
[#4]
All of the above, plus - get an EGW (Evolution Gun Works) Oversized Firing Pin Stop. You should be able to buy one from Brownells or Midway USA easily. It will take some fitting to make it fit your slide and extractor. You will also need to very slightly break the bottom rear edge (the edge that comes in contact with the hammer when you pull the slide back). The idea is to give it a profile like a WWI 1911 slide stop...it had a very different angle/profile than your current slide stop does.

That simple change will have a pretty dramatic effect on felt recoil. The idea behind it is that it requires more mechanical leverage to cock the hammer with one, thus soaking up more energy. (sorry if that sentence doesnt make much sense, I'm not %100 sure the best way to phrase it...it's like pushing open a door by pushing right next to the hinges vs pushing on the doorknob. it takes more energy if you're pushing next to the hinges to make the door open the same amount as if you had pushed it open from by the doorknob..)

There's fairly detailed instructions on this change on some of the dedicated 1911 forum boards. Peruse the gunsmithing sections on them; I'm sure you'll find a relevant thread..

2/25/2011 3:52:43 AM EDT
[#5]
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shoot 185 grain bullets or lighter


2/25/2011 5:55:10 AM EDT
[#6]
have you checked to see if she could have a better grip on the gun? maybe she will do better with slim grips. UMC 230gr fmj from walmart shoots pretty soft
2/25/2011 5:55:50 AM EDT
[#7]
If she is not comfy with full load .45 ACP it's going to be reloads or 9mm steel gun.  Even downloaded .45 ACP has more thump than 9mm.  

I heard about the firing pin stop solution as well.  This info came from a respected gunsmith.
2/25/2011 6:02:03 AM EDT
[#8]
a really light load with a 185 semi wadcutter lead bullet- you can get recoil down to close to 9mm level and contrary to popular belief, many guns will function just fine with the original recoil spring
2/25/2011 6:12:05 AM EDT
[#9]
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If she is not comfy with full load .45 ACP it's going to be reloads or 9mm steel gun.  Even downloaded .45 ACP has more thump than 9mm.  

I heard about the firing pin stop solution as well.  This info came from a respected gunsmith.


Ive downloadded 200gr lswc that are softer than factory 115 9mm.
2/25/2011 6:16:07 AM EDT
[#10]
The EGW FPS helps. It only takes half an hour with files to get it thrown in too.

Reloading would help even more.

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2/25/2011 8:59:29 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If she is not comfy with full load .45 ACP it's going to be reloads or 9mm steel gun.  Even downloaded .45 ACP has more thump than 9mm.  

I heard about the firing pin stop solution as well.  This info came from a respected gunsmith.


Ive downloadded 200gr lswc that are softer than factory 115 9mm.


Never even considered lead or different weight.  I guess if you can reload go 185 lead.  I was basing it on some 230 FMJ that I did.  Also it's cool seeing the bullets go down range with cream puff loads.
2/25/2011 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:
The EGW FPS helps. It only takes half an hour with files to get it thrown in too.

Reloading would help even more.

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Anyone know if companies put these style of FPS in their production guns?  I have a TRP and I have thought about installing a EGW FPS but haven't since I don't know if I will notice much of a difference.
2/25/2011 9:34:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The EGW FPS helps. It only takes half an hour with files to get it thrown in too.

Reloading would help even more.

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Anyone know if companies put these style of FPS in their production guns?  I have a TRP and I have thought about installing a EGW FPS but haven't since I don't know if I will notice much of a difference.


Dan Wesson.

2/25/2011 10:32:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The EGW FPS helps. It only takes half an hour with files to get it thrown in too.

Reloading would help even more.

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Anyone know if companies put these style of FPS in their production guns?  I have a TRP and I have thought about installing a EGW FPS but haven't since I don't know if I will notice much of a difference.


Danno_man answered you, but the fitting really is easy. All I had to do was file the one side that slips through the extractor notch until it fits snug, then round the bottom edge a little. I went out on a limb and bought one for one of my Loaded's, liked it, then bought another for my GI. They weren't expensive, but I'm glad I tried them. It won't single handedly turn a 1911 into a .22, but I could notice it easily from one range trip to another.

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2/25/2011 10:43:22 AM EDT
[#15]
Just make sure that when you round the bottom of the EGW stop, you round it evenly, so both left and right sides are equal. You don't want to "rock" the hammer unevenly; it'll hog out the hammer pin holes after a while if you don't make it even. You should be able to eyeball it, and there's a lot of metal to work with so go slow and you should be fine. I found using a light and checking the reflection is easiest for me, but YMMV.

Worst case...buy two in case one gets botched; they're not that expensive
2/25/2011 10:55:22 AM EDT
[#16]
Why not just let her shoot the HK? I understand why you want to change the 1911 but it seems much easier to just let her use the pistol that she is ok with unless it's a fitment issue.