Posted: 12/28/2010 9:02:30 AM EDT
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Tell me you put a thousand hollow points through it without a single FTF and then polished it up like that and shipped it to the customer. Then I'll be impressed. Wow.  out of
Beautiful pistol, I agree I am not much of a bull barrel fan, but as you so often point out, you are a custom shop and will build it however the customer wants it. Thank you for sharing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Tell me you put a thousand hollow points through it without a single FTF and then polished it up like that and shipped it to the customer. Then I'll be impressed. This is a tech forum, not GD. No need to shout. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but all these fancy schmancy pieces and I'll bet they aren't that much more reliable, which is what a pistola should be, first and foremost. And I consider that a technical comment. Here, I'll try again: Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tell me you put a thousand hollow points through it without a single FTF and then polished it up like that and shipped it to the customer. Then I'll be impressed. This is a tech forum, not GD. No need to shout. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but all these fancy schmancy pieces and I'll bet they aren't that much more reliable, which is what a pistola should be, first and foremost. And I consider that a technical comment. Here, I'll try again: Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? If you have a specific complaint concerning the reliability of this Wilson Combat 1911 let's hear it. If your intention is simply to disparage Wilson Combat it's not going to be tolerated. |
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dogsplat,
We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. |
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I hate the grips and if I were having it built, I would like that billboard about 1/3 the font size and off centered like maybe just before the rear cocking serrations. I DO like the bull barrel though and have thought about getting one in a 5". I had a loaded Trophy a while back that I really liked. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tell me you put a thousand hollow points through it without a single FTF and then polished it up like that and shipped it to the customer. Then I'll be impressed. This is a tech forum, not GD. No need to shout. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but all these fancy schmancy pieces and I'll bet they aren't that much more reliable, which is what a pistola should be, first and foremost. And I consider that a technical comment. Here, I'll try again: Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? If you have a specific complaint concerning the reliability of this Wilson Combat 1911 let's hear it. If your intention is simply to disparage Wilson Combat it's not going to be tolerated. Jealousy makes people say stupid stuff. Wilson Rep, I like it but I think it needs some nakedness.  |
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Quoted: dogsplat, We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. Thanks. 80 isn't a thousand, but it's nice to know you test your pistols that way. I've had several new guns (no Wilsons) with various problems that manufacturers then didn't want to make good on. I wasn't attempting to disparage your company in particular, you have lots of fans and it sounds like it's for good reason. Maybe some day I'll own a Wilson. Thanks again.
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Quoted: dogsplat, We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. you dont have to explain yourself to that {REMOVED} - SGB.... dude probably has a chip on his shoulder cause all he has is a milspec that wont fire HP's Once again this isn't GD, so let's knock this crap off. |
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Tell me you put a thousand hollow points through it without a single FTF and then polished it up like that and shipped it to the customer. Then I'll be impressed. This is a tech forum, not GD. No need to shout. Maybe I could have phrased it better, but all these fancy schmancy pieces and I'll bet they aren't that much more reliable, which is what a pistola should be, first and foremost. And I consider that a technical comment. Here, I'll try again: Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? Maybe you should read up on some Bill Wilson history. WC isn't new to the 1911 scene. |
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dogsplat, We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. That is going to leave a mark, Mr Wilson! Well-worded response. Actually... pretty fucking awesome response.  I didn't realize you guys put that many rounds through a pistol before shipping it out.
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the grips are very interesting. i wasn't sure at first but the more i look at them, the more i like them. i personally think the rollmark should be smaller, but i'm just a schmuck on the interwebz.
very nice looking pistol indeed. perhaps one day i will be in a place to afford such a beautiful weapon. |
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dogsplat, We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. Thanks. 80 isn't a thousand, but it's nice to know you test your pistols that way. I've had several new guns (no Wilsons) with various problems that manufacturers then didn't want to make good on. I wasn't attempting to disparage your company in particular, you have lots of fans and it sounds like it's for good reason. Maybe some day I'll own a Wilson. Thanks again. Kimber owner 
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Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? Dear Mr. Dogsplat How many drinks do you consume before posting? Where did you even come up with that insane expectation? Name ONE company that test fires 1,000 rounds before shipping a pistol to verify reliability. Brushing aside the (wholesale) cost of $200-$300 for JHP and an additional $100 in unskilled labor (more likely $200+ in skilled labor) to test fire 1,000 rounds, any weapon with 1,000 rounds down the pipe can't be sold as new regardless of how well it shrugs off the beating. Now take whatever line of pistol you believe is worthy of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval and go read whatever print/online literature that company puts out regarding their position with respect to firing reloaded ammunition. Dollars to donuts, your darling's company has a provision that using handloaded ammunition in that pistol voids the warranty. Wilson Combat gives you handloading recipes. Compare customer service between their outfit and any other in the handgun industry, production OR semicustom. You don't sit at the apex of the firearm foodchain putting out unreliable pistols. I am not sure whether your post is a troll against a product you (clearly) know nothing about, or if it's another pile of homespun BS acquired from your armchair adventures on Glocktalk and that Taurus you saw choke at the range, but it is neither technical nor appreciated here. If the weapon seems overpriced to you, then I suggest you learn how to ask (appropriately) what factors go into the cost of the pistols like an adult with sense in a technical forum. Alternately, if you have a negative experience or belief about a product's value or performance, state it plainly, preferrably with citation (real or anecdotal). If you have a snarky way of expressing jackassery, save it for GD. What you consider to be a technical comment is anything but. It nothing more than a passive aggressive way of looking down your nose at a product you cannot fathom, likely at a pricepoint you cannot afford. That said, it is nice that some good came out of the inquiry with respect to WC's testing procedure. Frankly, I am more of a purist myself, but I continue to look at my CQB Compact w. 4" bbl. as one of the wisest firearm investments that I have made. the heavy barrel does great things wth respect to dampening muzzle flip on the 4", and it is a leading factor as to why the that compact is as/more pleasurable to fire compared to a 5" full frame model. I imagine that 230gr feels like stout 9mm rolling out of that 5" barrel. |
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Dear Mr. Wilson, How many rounds do you fire out of my custom 1911 to verify its reliability before you ship it? Dear Mr. Dogsplat How many drinks do you consume before posting? Where did you even come up with that insane expectation? Name ONE company that test fires 1,000 rounds before shipping a pistol to verify reliability. Brushing aside the (wholesale) cost of $200-$300 for JHP and an additional $100 in unskilled labor (more likely $200+ in skilled labor) to test fire 1,000 rounds, any weapon with 1,000 rounds down the pipe can't be sold as new regardless of how well it shrugs off the beating. Now take whatever line of pistol you believe is worthy of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval and go read whatever print/online literature that company puts out regarding their position with respect to firing reloaded ammunition. Dollars to donuts, your darling's company has a provision that using handloaded ammunition in that pistol voids the warranty. Wilson Combat gives you handloading recipes. Compare customer service between their outfit and any other in the handgun industry, production OR semicustom. You don't sit at the apex of the firearm foodchain putting out unreliable pistols. I am not sure whether your post is a troll against a product you (clearly) know nothing about, or if it's another pile of homespun BS acquired from your armchair adventures on Glocktalk and that Taurus you saw choke at the range, but it is neither technical nor appreciated here. If the weapon seems overpriced to you, then I suggest you learn how to ask (appropriately) what factors go into the cost of the pistols like an adult with sense in a technical forum. Alternately, if you have a negative experience or belief about a product's value or performance, state it plainly, preferrably with citation (real or anecdotal). If you have a snarky way of expressing jackassery, save it for GD. What you consider to be a technical comment is anything but. It nothing more than a passive aggressive way of looking down your nose at a product you cannot fathom, likely at a pricepoint you cannot afford. That said, it is nice that some good came out of the inquiry with respect to WC's testing procedure. Frankly, I am more of a purist myself, but I continue to look at my CQB Compact w. 4" bbl. as one of the wisest firearm investments that I have made. the heavy barrel does great things wth respect to dampening muzzle flip on the 4", and it is a leading factor as to why the that compact is as/more pleasurable to fire compared to a 5" full frame model. I imagine that 230gr feels like stout 9mm rolling out of that 5" barrel. Well put! While I dont have my CQB anymore, it was the most reliable, and best fit gun I have onwed, with the exception of my Pro. I plan on picking up another CQB after the first of next year. |
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Seems to me there are three types of gun owner/enthusiasts:
1. The guy who can afford to buy anything he wants; 2. The guy who can't buy everything he wants but puts all his eggs in one or two baskets; (me) 3. The guy who would rather have 4-5 pretty good plastic pistols than one CQB. Maybe there's a fourth, the guy who can only afford one inexpensive pistol. I don't see any problem with anyone being in any of those categories. The guy who spec'd this is probably a 1, but could be a 2. I like what Wilson's doing. The cosmetics of this pistol would not be what I actually buy, but I can appreciate the workmanship, and I'm sure the owner will love it. And I'll bet if he stays on top of springs and maintenance he'll never have an issue. |
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http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/CQB-Blue-Stimple-unique-0131-1024x682.jpg http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/calibers/45-acp/another-amazing-blued-wilson-combat-custom-cqb-1911/ Very nice, do want!
zDo want!!!! Dayum that thing is beautiful. As for the guy who wonders about custom 1911's, man you just have to shoot them to truly appreciate it. They are head and shoulders superior to non custom guns but they definitely cost a lot more. If you ever have the chance to shoot one, clean one and spend some time with it I bet you will be ordering one shortly thereafter. Once you go custom it's hard liking anything else. Me- Les Baer TRS NightHawk GRP Recon x2 w ith sequential serial numbers(custom) Kimber SIS (not custom but damn fine quality compared to Taurus, low end springfield etc) |
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dogsplat, We test the 1911's with 80+ rounds of ammo( lead SWC,ball, and hollow points), spread out over 3 different mags (7,8, and 10 round mags). The guns are shot with both hands, strong and weak handed. We deliberately attempt to induce failures by holding the guns with just 2 fingers and firing entire mags. If the gun fails at any point, the pistol is taken back to the smith that did the final inspection, and he diagnoses the issue, and works the problem out. The gun then goes through the entire test fire procedure again. I do not know any company that puts EVERY GUN through as extensive a testfire procedure as we do. If you don't like the external looks of this custom blaster, just let us know, and we can spec the gun out however you want. We build custom ordered guns everyday. Thanks. 80 isn't a thousand, but it's nice to know you test your pistols that way. I've had several new guns (no Wilsons) with various problems that manufacturers then didn't want to make good on. I wasn't attempting to disparage your company in particular, you have lots of fans and it sounds like it's for good reason. Thanks again. Yeah, maybe some day you will. THEN you'll understand. So in the mean time, you've attacked the maker of one of the finest examples of the 1911 with a totally baseless argument (problems you've had because you bought guns from other manufacturers). Brilliant. Of the 5 1911's I own, my WC CQB has been the ONLY one that has proven itself 100% reliable through enough rounds to count. And guess which one I fill the holster with 90% of the time when I carry a 1911 ? To the OP, beautiful pistol you've got there. Not how I'd order mine, but that is the great part about a custom or semi custom gun. You can get it how YOU want it. May it serve you well. 
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