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11/17/2010 4:25:39 PM EDT
Ok, looking into purchesing my first 1911. After doing some research im going with the Springfield Armory Lightweight operator.

But, I do have a few questions for you die hard 1911 guys;

Does ne one make a 1911 style handgun in .40 S&W (ive only seen .45 and 9mm)

The one problem I have with the 1911 style is the low round copasity, at least in .45ACP.
Is there anything I can do about it? After market Mags?

Ive heard the 1911s can be very accurate (for handguns) and  taking human error out of the equation,
is this due to the longer barrel, twist, the common .45ACP round, or all the above?

Thanks guys
11/17/2010 4:45:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Ok, looking into purchesing my first 1911. After doing some research im going with the Springfield Armory Lightweight operator.

But, I do have a few questions for you die hard 1911 guys;

Does ne one make a 1911 style handgun in .40 S&W (ive only seen .45 and 9mm)

The one problem I have with the 1911 style is the low round copasity, at least in .45ACP.
Is there anything I can do about it? After market Mags?

Ive heard the 1911s can be very accurate (for handguns) and  taking human error out of the equation,
is this due to the longer barrel, twist, the common .45ACP round, or all the above?

Thanks guys


There are many manufacturers that make .40s.  Para Ordnance, STI, Colt, and many others have made them.  

The Paras and a few others use double stack mags.  The guns get quite heavy.  You could also go with 10 round mags, but they are much longer.  

The 1911 is a very accurate design.  Plus, there are a metric ton of guys that can work on them.  Bullseye shooters use them for a reason.
11/17/2010 4:50:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Check out STI for doublestack and .40.  The price may be higher than you want, however.



http://www.stiguns.com/guns/guns.php
11/17/2010 4:51:11 PM EDT
[#3]
there are double stack designs. Para and Kimber have some
11/17/2010 5:29:51 PM EDT
[#4]
As was stated above, double stacks, and .40's are available.



Magazines are a personal choice, I carry Wilson 47D's which gives me 8 rounds in the magazine, 9 rounds total in the gun, with two additional magazines I have a total of 25 ready for use.




With some professional training, speed reloads become second nature. On the street, I've never felt under gunned with a single stack 1911 in .45acp.




YMMV






11/17/2010 8:32:26 PM EDT
[#5]
I agree with 50-140, if you need to kill something that 8 rounds of .45ACP can't take care of then a pistol is probably not what you need.


11/18/2010 4:05:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I agree with 50-140, if you need to kill something that 8 rounds of .45ACP can't take care of then a pistol is probably not what you need.


What he said. I have went back to using and carrying 1911's myself, I have really gotten tired of the whole mag capicity thing and so on. I have eight round Wilson 47D's for my Commander and seven rounds Wilsons 47OX's for my Compact/ Officer frame gun. Like other have said here and in many other threads if you need more than eight rounds to kill something then you should have used or brought something else.

11/18/2010 4:55:24 AM EDT
[#7]
OP, in a single stack configuration, you're not going to gain much capacity, just rarity (unless you go double stack).

I'd suggest either going with .45 as designed, or maybe try to snag a 9mm.

For accuracy, the design not only leads itself to accuracy, but it usually fits people well (and is adjustable with different triggers, grip thicknesses, grip safeties, and mainspring housings) and lets them shoot to a higher level than other guns can. As long as everything is put together correctly, 1911's are some of the most accurate pistols out there.

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11/18/2010 8:30:24 AM EDT
[#8]
I know what u guys are saying, the 2 guns I carry are a full S&W M&P .40
And a Ruger Police Service 6 .357.  I don't mind carrying a smaller
Copasity (I usually just put one speed loader in my pocket when I carry
The .357), but I was just wondering if there was something I could
Do about it.

Thanks
11/18/2010 8:31:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Ok, looking into purchesing my first 1911. After doing some research im going with the Springfield Armory Lightweight operator.

But, I do have a few questions for you die hard 1911 guys;

Does ne one make a 1911 style handgun in .40 S&W (ive only seen .45 and 9mm)

Yes.  STI builds a lot of them. Wilson combat has several models. Les Baer makes at least one.

The one problem I have with the 1911 style is the low round copasity, at least in .45ACP.
Is there anything I can do about it? After market Mags?

Yes.  Smaller calibers = more rounds.  Double stacks = more rounds.  Extended mags = more rounds.

Ive heard the 1911s can be very accurate (for handguns) and  taking human error out of the equation,
is this due to the longer barrel, twist, the common .45ACP round, or all the above?

Not an expert but I believe that it is mostly due to the tolerances of the platform.  One of the reasons that 1911's can be so tempermental is because of the tight tolerances but it also = accuracy.  The reason plastic guns can be abused so badly without causing reliability issues is because they are designed to have a loose fit and finish comparitively speaking.

Thanks guys


11/18/2010 12:01:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I can highly recommend the Taurus PT1911!  I love mine.  2 weeks ago, I had a bullet with probably double load of powder (my first reload batch).  The overpressure blew the magazine bottom plate out, sending the spring, follower, and 6 bullets flying.  My shooting instructor is a gunsmith, and he completely disassembled my pistol and checked it.   The gun is running fine and no problems (except for the mag).  Very strong gun and quite accurate too.