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10/23/2010 7:28:45 PM EDT
Are they even worth it? Do any of them cycle well at all? What manufacturers are the best?

Thanks,
John
10/23/2010 7:43:19 PM EDT
[#1]
A friend has a Marvel on a Springfield and it works great. Never seen him have to fiddle with his.
I have a Colt conversion kit on a Colt and it works great also, even shoots bulk pack ammo

10/24/2010 7:31:26 AM EDT
[#2]
I bought a used Colt Conversion Kit for my 1911 in 91'.  Still runs fine except with Remington Bulk pack Golden Bullets.



For me it was worth the cost as it gives me low cost training, low noise in certain areas, used it to teach my boys when they were 5 yrs old on a 1911 (same with my M261 AR conversion and MAS 45/Mauser 98 training rifle).

CD
10/24/2010 7:53:35 AM EDT
[#3]
dphill,

not to pick on you but......you're patching your paper plate targets?

I wouldn't mind a kit myself.
10/24/2010 8:05:13 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
dphill,

not to pick on you but......you're patching your paper plate targets?

I wouldn't mind a kit myself.




...
10/24/2010 8:13:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Hope and change MF'er.  

that's a testament to the state of the economy.

just poking fun your way my good man
10/24/2010 8:37:29 AM EDT
[#6]
The wife dogs me when I shoot up all the paper plates
10/24/2010 11:13:20 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Are they even worth it? Do any of them cycle well at all? What manufacturers are the best?

Thanks,
John


?1 YES
?2 YES
?3 All
#4 what are you gonna do
10/24/2010 1:25:20 PM EDT
[#8]
I've got the Kimber kit that works pretty well with Federal Bulk Pack.



Choked more on Remington and would short stroke 70% of the time with Winchester 555rd (and 333rd) packs.



I'm glad I bought it.
10/24/2010 1:54:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a cieiner kit that works great with the federal bulk pack.  I sent the money order and order form to ceiner and then forgot about it.  About 4 1/2 months later it arrived on my doorstep.  It is fun to play with and reliability is good through most of a bulk pack.  It will get pretty dirty before it starts a failure to fire on the first round in the mag.  But a little bit of clp and it runs great.  Plus I love the 15 round mags.

Ceiner has a bad customer service reputation.  But I did get my kit.
10/24/2010 3:40:56 PM EDT
[#10]
I have a Kimber one I use on my S&W and it works great. I shoot with another guy who also has a kimber on his Springfield and it works without trouble too.
10/24/2010 4:07:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Anyone have a TacSol?
10/24/2010 9:22:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Anyone have a TacSol?


I did watch a TacSol gun break an extractor at a Steel Challenge match a while back.  Owner was having all kinds of FTF with it before the extractor exited the pistol.

The only one I have personal experience with is the Marvel #2.  It's a high quality unit, to be sure.  It comes with a big warning that only premium high velocity ammo will function in it: CCI Mini-mags, Remington something-or-other, and something else I disremember.   Despite this caveat, it seems to cycle Federal bulk pack pretty well.
10/24/2010 9:30:33 PM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:

I bought a used Colt Conversion Kit for my 1911 in 91'. Still runs fine except with Remington Bulk pack Golden Bullets.



http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/22_conversion.jpg



For me it was worth the cost as it gives me low cost training, low noise in certain areas, used it to teach my boys when they were 5 yrs old on a 1911 (same with my M261 AR conversion and MAS 45/Mauser 98 training rifle).



CD






Pretty much what he said, except that remmy GB works fine in mine, and I seem to get better groups with it than I do with AutoMatch...







My Colt Conversion, which resides upon my Combat Elite

10/25/2010 11:44:12 AM EDT
[#14]
Why not just get a 1911 in .22 like the GSG for 299$?
10/25/2010 11:47:29 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Why not just get a 1911 in .22 like the GSG for 299$?


Because it's crap?
10/25/2010 12:19:11 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Anyone have a TacSol?


Yep. Runs great on anything from subsonic Rem to CCI MiniMags. It is on a RIA frame.

It took about 100 CCI Minimags to break-in and it will run Kimber mags but I have to slingshot the first round every time.
10/25/2010 3:50:25 PM EDT
[#17]
I have a Tactical Solutions 22lr conversion on my Smith & Wesson 1911DK. It took a couple hundred rounds to break it in, runs great now, very accurate. The slide has a hold open on the last round. Very neat design I am glad I purchased it. Only complained would be that it does not fit in a holster. I new this before buying one that the rail and sight sit a little high. If anyone is interested in one the best place I found for price was online at Rimfire Sports and Custom.
10/25/2010 3:57:06 PM EDT
[#18]
I had a Colt conversion back in the late 70's which I sold but regretted later.  I now have an Advantage Arms 1911 standard kit  which I really like.  I also have an EAA kit which is no longer supported by EAA.  I wish I'd never bought the 1911 EAA kit,  to many issues to go into.  I wouldn't recommend anyone buy an EAA 1911 kit.   The Kimber's I've been around worked good but the slide does not lock back on last round like AA kits.  Mag prices for Kimber and AA kits are around $20 to $25 which is cheaper than some other kits.  My AA kit has very good accuracy but doesn't like Federal bulk but works pretty good with Remington golden bullets which don't work in my other 22's.  I get a lot more trigger time shooting 22's, I shoot an AA kit on my Glocks, 1911 AA kit and several AR 15 dedicated 22 uppers and conversion kits.
10/25/2010 4:42:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anyone have a TacSol?


I did watch a TacSol gun break an extractor at a Steel Challenge match a while back.  Owner was having all kinds of FTF with it before the extractor exited the pistol.

The only one I have personal experience with is the Marvel #2.  It's a high quality unit, to be sure.  It comes with a big warning that only premium high velocity ammo will function in it: CCI Mini-mags, Remington something-or-other, and something else I disremember.   Despite this caveat, it seems to cycle Federal bulk pack pretty well.


This is pretty much my experience with the Marvel #2. I put mine on my RIA frame and after a couple hundred rounds of Mini-Mags it shoots the Federal and American Eagle(which I believe is rebadged Federal) bulk packs just fine and is light years more accurate than I am. At the time I bought it the only mags Marvel had for it were the steel. I bought a polymer mag from AA and it works perfectly.


10/25/2010 6:59:46 PM EDT
[#20]
I have the Kimber kit with Dawson front sight and 5 of the cinter 15 rd mags. I use a reduced power hammer spring. works like a champ. Changing to a reduced power hammer spring will solve most of the feed malfunctions some people have with the kits.
10/25/2010 8:05:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why not just get a 1911 in .22 like the GSG for 299$?


Because it's crap?


I know of 2 guys that have had very little problems out of theirs. Maybe 1 fte every 100-200 rounds.
Not bad compared to some of the conversions I read about.
10/25/2010 9:13:02 PM EDT
[#22]




Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:

Why not just get a 1911 in .22 like the GSG for 299$?




Because it's crap?




I know of 2 guys that have had very little problems out of theirs. Maybe 1 fte every 100-200 rounds.

Not bad compared to some of the conversions I read about.



The greatest value of using a conversion unit on your frame is as a training aid substitute that perfectly replicates the weight and feel of your primary pistol, because it is your primary pistol. You just gain the option to shoot 500+ rounds for about $15.



With mine, I have one magazine (out of 9) that won't always strip and feed the next to last round. I am kind of "Meh..." about it because that just becomes an immediate action drill opportunity.



Finally, how much are you willing to spend getting a gunsmith to replicate your Nighthawk's/Wilson's/Baer's/etc.  trigger pull on a GSG?

10/26/2010 7:07:39 AM EDT
[#23]
I've run the kimber conversion kit for a year and it's seen more rounds through it than the 45 slide has seen in three years.  unless you have a giant stock pile of.45 then go for it.  it's definitely worth it.
10/26/2010 10:34:29 PM EDT
[#24]
I have the Kimber slide/conversion too and was lucky enough to pick up a Kimber frame for $50 so now I have a dedicated .22 1911

I have found that cleaning is important as is ammo selection - go for high velocity rounds, copper plated.