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1/6/2012 10:47:39 PM EDT
I am thinking about getting a P64, I know nothing about these pistols and I am looking for something smaller than my H&K p30. aim had them for under 200 bucks. But I dont know what else is out there. can you guys help me? I want a 9x18 pistol and I have no idea what to look for.
1/6/2012 11:08:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Here is my P64 next to a Makarov PM




Here it is next to my PA-63


And finally next to my R-61


If you are looking for the smallest carry 9x18mm I would go with an R-61, if you just want an extremely reliable very accurate shooter I would go with a Makarov PM or CZ-82.

The FEG PA-63 and R-61 have lightweight frames that make them easier to carry. The P64 is almost the same size as a Makarov PM and holds 6+1 instead of the PM's 8+1. The P64 has the worst DA trigger out of any pistol I have ever tried, but is suprisingly accurate in SA mode.

As far as common 9x18's there are:

Makarov PM's both 8rd single stack and 12rd double stack all steel guns.
CZ-82's 12rd double stack, all steel and ambi guns.
FEG PA-63 7rd single stacks, both all steel and lightweight alloy frame models.
FEG R-61  6rd single stack, lightweight alloy frame.
Polish P64 6rd single stack, all steel gun.
Polish P83 stamped steel slide, steel frame.
1/7/2012 4:32:17 PM EDT
[#2]
thanks for the pics. what is a PM? I dont mind a single stack I am looking for a ccw pistol. I also looked into the PPK and the sig P232. but the price on the 9x18 pistol really caught my eye and I read its a little bit bigger than the 380 round. Also is there a few places to pick one up other than AIM.
1/7/2012 7:24:07 PM EDT
[#3]
The PM is just the standard Makarov pistol that started it all in 9x18mm. A lot of the 9x18mm pistols get lumped together as Makarovs, but the PM is the only one that is a true Makarov.

Widener's Bulgarian Makarov.

J&G Sales Bulgarian Makarov.

J&G Sales CZ-82

J&G Sales P64

Centerfire Systems Bulgarian Makarov

SothernOhioGuns/SOG also has P64's but you have to have an FFL to see the prices.
1/8/2012 11:33:18 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
The PM is just the standard Makarov pistol that started it all in 9x18mm. A lot of the 9x18mm pistols get lumped together as Makarovs, but the PM is the only one that is a true Makarov.

Widener's Bulgarian Makarov.

J&G Sales Bulgarian Makarov.

J&G Sales CZ-82

J&G Sales P64

Centerfire Systems Bulgarian Makarov

SothernOhioGuns/SOG also has P64's but you have to have an FFL to see the prices.


so what do I need to search for to get a PM?