Posted: 10/22/2009 2:15:08 PM EDT
These links show pictures of some different variations I have had the priviledge to restore. The K Date Luger is my favorite Mauser Luger from WWII made and issued in 1934.
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Bob, I have worked on half a dozen Baby Lugers, most built by Neil Keller of Kustom Ballistics. I've worked on a couple of really different variations, one a Baby Artillery and one a Baby Navy Luger. I dont have any pictures of those two. We did a gold enlayed, fully engraved baby with presentation case for the American Pistol Guild back in 2005 that was raffled off and showed cased in the Ameican Handgunner magazine, that one is shown here without grips. It raised $19,000 in raffle ticket proceeds. It has been fun working on those Lugers too.
Here are a few pictures I found tonight. Click on the bottom links to view. 
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Bob, are talking about the front sight? Well, both front & rear look non-OEM, IMO. The rear looks a bit taller but not by much, just a hair. Could be the angle of the camera when the pic was taken? Am I the only one who thinks a Baby Luger design made today on CNC machines (i.e, affordable) would be THE neatest little carry piece? Flat as heck, short & ergonomic as anything ever made. The only possible less-than-perfect issue might be it may be too muzzle light? 
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Bob, probably the angle, they are from a standard 4" Luger that was modified. I guess Georg Luger that they were great, here is a picture I took of his original BABY LUGER when I visited "The World of Lugers" in Phoenix a few years ago. There was another smaller BABY that was a bit different and it was even smaller, had a different safety and fired 32 acp rounds I believe. Lugers point so well instictively that a short would be useful at close range not using the sights. The action/safety/carrying with the firing pin locked, are a bit worrysome I think for concealed carry.
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| I found a K Luger that I could barely afford a couple of years ago. It is great fun to play with. Very accurate, but really bad sights: tiny V rear, with tapered front that is nearly impossible for me to see. It is also sighted in for something like 50 yds, but it is still very accurate. A piece of history. |
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Bob, I thought you might enjoy this Baby Luger a real 45 caliber build by my friend Neil Keller at Kustom Ballistics. 
Hell, YES!
Dare I ask what that one would retail at? I'm assuming it was a customer supplied gun for the base? How did they get around the difference in the bolt breechface from 9mm to .45acp as well as the recoil spring? 
It took some serious engineering to build that baby, IMO! 
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Bob, Neil will make you one from a doner shooter Luger. I don't remember what he charges, it is been probably 4 years since he did that one.
He makes Baby Lugers all the time. Check his website and email from his site. Here is the link to it http://www.kustom-ballistics.com/index.php Please note this is a 45 GAP not a 45 ACP The round is the same overall length as the 9mm Luger but runs at pressure about equivalent to a 45+p See this artical for more info http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/new_45/#cont It is the middle round in this pic, 9mm on left 45 GAP in the center and 45 ACP on right side. 
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Bob, here is what I found posted on another forum from Neil. Only other thing he said was the breech block was a totally new one. I also asked some of the guys that have talked to Neil since this aired back in early 2005 and they said he said it was too much trouble and he probably wont do another one . This gun was shown at the 2005 Shot show.
–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– A little bit about the gun. 1st the 45 GAP round was developed by Glock and is a 45 with the same length as the 9mm there fore it only takes one gun. The barrel was machined from a Dougles blank and was made in two pieces as the sight base is tig welded on made from the same stock as the barrel (don't have a dividing head to make it in one piece and after doing it probably would do another one the same way. Tha lower was shortened 1/2 inch as are the babies I make in 9mm. All the internals are done the same as well, except the main spring and it is special. There are quite a few changes that havew to be made and I did keep notes on all of them. There were a lot of go back and change it a little more(s) to get the bugs out of it and there are a couple more before I will be 100% satisfied. The mag was made by splitting a 10 round 1911 45 magazine length wise and welding back together. A form die was made simular to GT's magazine repair form and after the top shape was cut and the steel annealed the mag was shaped over the form for the fed lips. A special follower hade to be made as well as the GT bottoms. The mag has a FXO sprial full length spring. If I do nay more I will figure the developed length and form them from scratch as Martz does as I feel it will be easier, but of course I have been wroong before. The gun is finished for now in the white with strawing od the normally done parts and the front fight is heat blued. To do the ist one it has been a labor of love but very rewarding. The GAP round has the same ballistics as the 45 we all know of but the felt recoil is not that bad especially when compared to a small officers style 1911. The toggle really absorbes the recoil, of course I have not fired it that many time (approximately 30) but then its cold and snow covered here in Indiana. |
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Well, *I* can understand why he doesn't wish to build another one. There obviously had to be a LOT of labor-intensive & mental engineering involved in that rascal. Lord knows *I* could never get close to even thinking about doing one, much less actually building one.
I wonder if he machined the breech block himself? I doubt he got one from Numerich or Simpson, eh? 
Ah, well. One day when I hit my Powerball I will have ALL the Luger work you can handle! 
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A couple of Zero Series P.38s and a Code 480 P.38
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| The Zero Series Walther P.38 was an early run that has a zero PREFIX on the serial number. They were hi polished beautifully blued early editions, followed by followed by the Code 480 series, followed by the "ac" no date, then ac40, ac41 Walthers. Then they went to a rougher military blue with the ac 42, ac43, ac44, ac45. That is the simple answer though there even variations with the Zero Series that make these even more interesting. I think that is all accurate but I am no expert on this fascinating pistol. The Zero series and code 480s are highly prized by collectors. |
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Yep, Here are a few shots of it Doug! Wish I still had that Baby Luger Holster Jerry Burney made for me in buckskin color/
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