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7/13/2008 8:37:34 AM EDT
Posted this question in the C&R forum. No bites so I'll try here

Many years ago i bought a "Demil" Mauser C96 frame and upper. The frame is saw cut if half about 3/4" infront of the trigger guard, the upper is not cut. If I sell this, I asume I don't have to ship to an FFL or C&R.

Let me know I'm wrong.

EDIT with photo:

7/13/2008 3:03:48 PM EDT
[#1]
As I understand it, a demilled firearm is no longer a firearm. This is why folks can buy them via the internet w/o using a FFL.

It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to call one's local BATFE office & run it by them, IMO.

My .o2
7/14/2008 8:18:46 PM EDT
[#2]
ATF requires three torch cuts for a proper demil, but am not sure if this only applies to MG's or not. That looks like a saw cut which was the old spec.
8/8/2008 5:59:52 AM EDT
[#3]
weld it back together and build that baby up
8/8/2008 2:25:42 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
weld it back together and build that baby up



Good way to incur ATF wrath.....................    
11/18/2008 9:49:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Maybe not, it depends if it was ever an MG.

If it was semi-auto mauser pistol, then it should be ok to do a reweld.
11/20/2008 4:29:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Maybe not, it depends if it was ever an MG.

If it was semi-auto mauser pistol, then it should be ok to do a reweld.




AS *I* understand it, rewelding several to make one functional will delve into the mfgr aspect of BATFE. IOW, no mfgr license = no fun from the Feds. Granted, this is a risk that will most likely be hard to bring to their attention, but stranger things have happened.

Not worth the potential grief, IMO...............    

11/20/2008 4:32:04 PM EDT
[#7]
Is the upper still usable?
(Just curious)

And does the upper have a 50-500 meter sight? Those can be worth big bucks!
11/26/2008 2:20:13 PM EDT
[#8]
I believe he can reweld it for his own personal use but if he sells it he must mark it and pay the manufacturing excise tax plus have a manufacter's lic. I believe that is how it works. That is assuming it isn't a select fire version.
btway that is an old spec demil but usually it was cut into three pieces ...one cut like what is seen plus another cut to remove the upper front of the mag well from the front piece. Usually the upper piece was missing from most of these type demills. Looks like a run of the mill mauser pistol not a select fire schnellfuer.
11/26/2008 5:41:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Is the upper still usable?
(Just curious)

And does the upper have a 50-500 meter sight? Those can be worth big bucks!


Negative on both counts. I bought it from him to toy with, and it's going to at the very least need a barrel sleeve job to be functional again.

The rear sight was not included. But I have pieced together an almost functional C96 now for $60 bucks total.
12/9/2008 12:54:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Maybe not, it depends if it was ever an MG.

If it was semi-auto mauser pistol, then it should be ok to do a reweld.




AS *I* understand it, rewelding several to make one functional will delve into the mfgr aspect of BATFE. IOW, no mfgr license = no fun from the Feds. Granted, this is a risk that will most likely be hard to bring to their attention, but stranger things have happened.

Not worth the potential grief, IMO...............    



That's only if he's manufacturing with intent to sell. For personal use, it's no different than building an AK from a parts kit.