Posted: 4/26/2011 5:32:06 AM EDT
I've always wanted one of each of these and when a good friend decided to liquidate some of his collection to finance his retirement...I jumped on both of these at the same time.
I have the some documentation to date when this was brought to the States in '45 on the Red Nine. The fun is just beginning on the research for the numbers matching BYF 41 P08. |
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Thanks guys...
The serial # on the byf mag matches the pistol so...I kinda think I'll stay with it. 
Thanks anyway for the trade offer but...I am looking for a correct period spare with the black bottom. I bought these two to keep these as collector guns so shooting them for now is pretty much out. That is really hard because I want to shoot the Red Nine so badly...I'm tempted for at least one magazine full of fun. Lugers...I've shot plenty of times. Broomhandles? Not so much. |
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If you decide to fire your broomhandle, be sure to remove and carefully inspect the bolt stop.
This part does exactly what it's name implies. They take a lot of punishment over the many years and are susceptible to cracking and failure. If it fails, your face becomes a backstop for a high velocity bolt assembly, with consequences that I don't have to describe. There are forged replacements available. Also it's a good idea to replace all the springs. Wolff has a spring pack for the C96 for a very reasonable price. Enjoy your Broom, and shoot safely! |
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Ok, so then your grips may have been field replacments. Lugers with the black grips usually came with matching black bottomed mags. I think there was a transition time, but would have to look the serial number up to confirm. The S/N is 1449 A with the double stamped 135 on the right side of the receiver and a single stamp on the barrel's right side. There are Nazi Eagles on the right side of the barrel and the receiver side. There is also the eagle on the left side of the front toggle piece. All appropriate pieces have the 49 numbers that also match. The magazine has the 1449 neatly stamped on the bottom of the aluminum piece. Along with the gyo 41 on the holster with the matching swastica eagle on the back of the holster...this weapon was bought by a friened many years ago from the estate of an ex GI and somewhat unknowing family represented as the rig "as was" when brought back by the father/uncle after the war. I have some of the documentation of the return of the Red Nine (S/N 51010) and the name, address and SS number of the man that declared this weapon to the then ATF in '68 because of the issue of the shoulder stock. Supposedly he was the one that brought it back on November 25 of '45. THAT ATF original certficate in '68...I have in hand. The Nine does NOT have the Imperial acceptance stamp (supposedly some of the police Nines didn't) but apparently the special five digit S/N puts in the group contracted with Mauser in the 1916-18 timeframe. There is also stamped on the inside handle strap P.W. 183. with the '1" of the mark Xed over and out. The P08 is all verbal info passed from one very trusted collector and friend. As to actual authenticity...the signs point the right direction for both but ...who really knows? All info regarding either would be appreciated as I'm new to these weapons and really just starting the research. |