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6/17/2004 3:58:37 PM EDT
What does everyone think of the Kimber Custom in Stainless, calibered in .40sw.  Price $735.  I want a 1911 style handgun and i want something that i can shoot comfortable all day.  Plus its a little cheaper to shoot.  

Anyone that has one please chime in and tell me what u think.  

Thanks

Will
6/17/2004 6:36:58 PM EDT
[#1]
I looooove my stainless II in .45. Wish I could make it do what it was capable of, but on closer examination would have preferred the earlier Stainless.  Not all change is good.  I'm a skinny little bastard and I comfortably shoot the .45 all day (and a good day it is too). Prefer it to the .40 guns I've tried, recoil is less snappy. Still, your cartridge is your choice.  The Kimber stainless is a nicely made holepuncher, and accurate.  Might be better choices for a .40 cal in that pricerange though.

How's that for helpful?
6/17/2004 9:38:59 PM EDT
[#2]
I have never had any problems with either on my kimbers.  .45 isn't that much more expensive and i my opinion a little more comfortable to shoot.  cant't go wrong with a kimber.
6/17/2004 9:41:05 PM EDT
[#3]
The .40 cal actually has HIGHER chamber pressures than the .45, and often has more felt recoil.

The .40 S&W has become the premiere law enforcement caliber. It serves as a bridge caliber, satisfying those who feel more comfortable with a bigger caliber than the 9mm and more bullets than the .45 ACP. It has started to produce excellent results and appears it will be the law enforcement round of the future replacing the .45ACP.

There were a few members of law enforcement who were rather adamant in their position that the .45 ACP pistol was vastly superior to the current 9mm offerings. The only problem with this argument was that a collection of actual shooting data for almost two decades has failed to show a significant advantage by selecting the .45 ACP. I reminded them of my 1st commandment of gun fighting: "No intelligent man or woman should ever take a pistol to a gun fight with any degree of enthusiasm." Besides, the last thing we needed was another caliber in our ammunition supply.

6/17/2004 11:54:19 PM EDT
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6/18/2004 6:21:42 AM EDT
[#5]
6/18/2004 10:25:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the replys.  

This mornig i had a small wrench thrown into the works.  I went to another gun shop in town and they had a TLE II, Springfield XD-40, and a HK USP 9mm.  The XD feels great in my hand and i like the looks of it.  I like the TLE but i think the cost may be prohibiting, $950.  The HK(used slightly) and the XD are both $525.  

So you guys think i should get the Custom II if it fits me, or should i just hold out for the TLE when i can afford it.  I honestly dont need the extra punch from the .45.  

I guess we'll see how it goes.

Thanks again.

Will
6/18/2004 12:05:11 PM EDT
[#7]
You gots to make YOU HAPPY. Get the one that calls your name the loudest!!!
6/18/2004 12:15:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Yup... get the one you like the most.  If you like how it feels, you'll shoot it more and if you shoot it more, you'll be better with it.  For me, the .40 makes no sense.  Well, it will again after the AWB expires, but for now, it seems a waste.  The benefit of a .40 is to have a hi capacity mag but have a bigger bullet than a 9mm.  To do this, you have to use a double stack magazine so its automatically fatter than a .45 yet you only get 2 extra rounds.  That isn't a good trade-off to me.  Now an extra 5 rounds starts to make sense.  

By the way... if you haven't ever owned a 1911, you need to check out a few things.  Many folks (myself included) choose to rest our thumb on top of the thumb safety.  That is the fastest way to disengage the safety and the thumb doesn't need to move ater clicking it off.  If you hold the gun that way, you may find that the tang on the Kimber digs into your thumb knuckle.  The tang on the Kimber is distinctly lower on the Kimber than it is on the Springfield, Colt or the Sig.  It doesn't bother everybody, but it bothers the crap out of me.  I can't shoot one and I own 4 1911s.
6/18/2004 1:40:13 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Thanks for the replys.  

This mornig i had a small wrench thrown into the works.  I went to another gun shop in town and they had a TLE II, Springfield XD-40, and a HK USP 9mm.  The XD feels great in my hand and i like the looks of it.  I like the TLE but i think the cost may be prohibiting, $950.  The HK(used slightly) and the XD are both $525.  

So you guys think i should get the Custom II if it fits me, or should i just hold out for the TLE when i can afford it.  I honestly dont need the extra punch from the .45.  

I guess we'll see how it goes.

Thanks again.
$950 is a little pricy for the TLE.  The usuall price in my area is $800-$850.  If the TLE is what is most comfortable in your hand then get it.  I have learned that you should get exactly what you want.  If you get something to just get buy, you will end up getting what you want later and end up paying more since you will probably end up selling the gert buy gun and not getting what you paid for it.  Get the one you like the best even if it isn't the Kimber.

Will

6/18/2004 11:11:13 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Thanks for the replys.  

This mornig i had a small wrench thrown into the works.  I went to another gun shop in town and they had a TLE II, Springfield XD-40, and a HK USP 9mm.  The XD feels great in my hand and i like the looks of it.  I like the TLE but i think the cost may be prohibiting, $950.  The HK(used slightly) and the XD are both $525.  

So you guys think i should get the Custom II if it fits me, or should i just hold out for the TLE when i can afford it.  I honestly dont need the extra punch from the .45.  

I guess we'll see how it goes.

Thanks again.
$950 is a little pricy for the TLE.  The usuall price in my area is $800-$850.  If the TLE is what is most comfortable in your hand then get it.  I have learned that you should get exactly what you want.  If you get something to just get buy, you will end up getting what you want later and end up paying more since you will probably end up selling the gert buy gun and not getting what you paid for it.  Get the one you like the best even if it isn't the Kimber.

Will




Agreed... get what you want now because if you dont you will just not be happy... I think the WORLD of the XD pistols... i looked at one 2 years ago, and didnt get it... finally got it after buying and selling several pistols that did not make me happy (much higher priced pistols) I finally got one and it felt like comming home... I should have just gotten what I wanted in the first place.
6/19/2004 7:23:10 AM EDT
[#11]
get into reloading.  You can do a whole lot with .45 when you reload.  I just recenty started, and I'm loading rounds now that make the power floor for IDPA, but the recoil in my Kimber .45 is less than factory loads in my Glock 9mm.
6/22/2004 6:52:38 AM EDT
[#12]
The .40 is generally not as reliable as the .45 in single stack trim unless you load it long.  On the other hand, the .45 can really suck in a double stack 1911/2011 platform.

I'm currently shooting  a pair of Kimbers (5" and 4") and an STI Edge in .40 (double stack).
6/22/2004 10:35:08 PM EDT
[#13]

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I have never had any problems with either on my kimbers.  .45 isn't that much more expensive and i my opinion a little more comfortable to shoot.  cant't go wrong with a kimber.



6/23/2004 1:24:48 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

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I have never had any problems with either on my kimbers.  .45 isn't that much more expensive and i my opinion a little more comfortable to shoot.  cant't go wrong with a kimber.






Care to expand on that ?
6/23/2004 2:03:52 AM EDT
[#15]

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I have never had any problems with either on my kimbers.  .45 isn't that much more expensive and i my opinion a little more comfortable to shoot.  cant't go wrong with a kimber.






Care to expand on that ?



Probably not, haha.
6/23/2004 10:40:23 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

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I have never had any problems with either on my kimbers.  .45 isn't that much more expensive and i my opinion a little more comfortable to shoot.  cant't go wrong with a kimber.






Care to expand on that ?



I was with him at the range when he has had problems.  

First thought it was an ammo problem... but happened on multible types of ammo. And with BOTH Kimbers.

On more than one occassion he had to dig brass out of the weapon that got hung up, and other times it got hung on the extractor.

I have shot his Kimbers and they are SWEET shooting pistols, and very accurate. I actually like the 4 inch better than the 5, just personal preferance I guess,

but due to the issues I have seen him have I would hesitate in having one as my CCW.  Maybe its just HIS two particular pistols... maybe it was ammo issues with BOTH types of ammo, I dont know. But I never had any problems out of my S&W 1911, nor did I see my buddy have problems out of his Colt (that he sold to buy the Kimber).

I am planning on buying another 1911 pistol, but I just dont think that it will necessarily be a Kimber. What ever I buy if I go to a 1911 carry pistol it will have to prove itself with 2500 Rounds down range without all the problems before I will feel secure with it.
6/23/2004 10:47:46 PM EDT
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6/24/2004 4:58:35 PM EDT
[#18]
I like my Stainless Kimber:
http://members.verizon.net/vze47msr/kimber2.jpg

It's also in 40 caliber:
http://members.verizon.net/vze47msr/kimber1.jpg
Sorta.  ;)