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3/2/2010 12:45:08 AM EDT
So a friend of mine wanted a handgun. Took him to the local firearm store and he seen the $175 price tag and said Ill take it. He bought the 40 cal.  I tried to talk him out of it but he said guns cost to much.
 
We went to the local range. He shot 50 rounds and out of them 8 jammed. The next day he shot 50 more and 13 jammed. Ill keep posting his shooting sessions so we can all see how much of a POS these are.


as of 3/1/2010- 100rds / 21jams
3/2/2010 3:59:03 AM EDT
[#1]
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I tried to talk him out of it but he said guns cost to much.


Funerals cost a lot more.

3/2/2010 4:25:36 AM EDT
[#2]
It's just a little bit better than bad language in a gun fight, but not much.
3/2/2010 4:37:41 AM EDT
[#3]
Tell him to send it back. Everyone bashes Hi Point, but supposedly they have one of the best warranties in the business. Lifetime warranty and they'll fix almost anything.

Most of the Hi Point complaints you see are from people who have never owned one...
3/2/2010 4:46:51 AM EDT
[#4]
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It's just a little bit better than bad language in a gun fight, but not much.


how many rounds you put through a HP?
3/2/2010 5:08:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Should have shown him this picture:







 
3/2/2010 5:32:31 AM EDT
[#6]
He saw the price and bought it..........
3/2/2010 5:55:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Send him to the Hi Point forums. They are soooooo sweet over there.

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum/index.php
3/2/2010 6:56:45 AM EDT
[#8]
check the feed lips and possibly the follower on the magazine.
3/2/2010 7:03:44 AM EDT
[#9]
Hell, you will see the same thing on an $800 1911. Price has nothing to do with it........

3/2/2010 8:00:00 AM EDT
[#10]
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Tell him to send it back. Everyone bashes Hi Point, but supposedly they have one of the best warranties in the business. Lifetime warranty and they'll fix almost anything.

Most of the Hi Point complaints you see are from people who have never owned one...


I agree, everyone says they are great when it comes to warranty work.
3/2/2010 8:16:10 AM EDT
[#11]
sounds like he may be a noob.  could any of the failures be caused by user error?  riding the slide?  limp wrist?  maybe it needs breaking in for 200 rds or so?  you should've told him to buy a tokarev instead...
3/2/2010 8:28:58 AM EDT
[#12]
LIMP WRISTING
3/2/2010 12:39:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
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Tell him to send it back. Everyone bashes Hi Point, but supposedly they have one of the best warranties in the business. Lifetime warranty and they'll fix almost anything.

Most of the Hi Point complaints you see are from people who have never owned one...


I agree, everyone says they are great when it comes to warranty work.


Probably because every single owner has experienced problems and  sent their pistols in for repair.
3/2/2010 1:00:26 PM EDT
[#14]
From what I have seen, their heavy and ugly..............but priced right and go bang very time.
3/2/2010 1:00:30 PM EDT
[#15]
From what I have seen, their heavy and ugly..............but priced right and go bang very time........................sometimes even a double
3/2/2010 1:14:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.
3/2/2010 1:19:47 PM EDT
[#17]
That's more failures than I've had in ... uh jeez. 12, 13 years? Something like that. Granted, it hasn't seen the use that my 1911's have, but it's between 500-1000 somewhere. Also a hell of a lot lighter load, I'm not sure that design is really meant for .40, but maybe they've updated it a bit since I got the .380.
3/2/2010 2:10:41 PM EDT
[#18]
They're not pretty guns but they don't have an earned reputation of failing to fire. As others have said, I bet he's either holding it like a wimp or he's loading it with 9mm ammo.  
3/2/2010 3:11:21 PM EDT
[#19]


Want me to post a blown up glock picture, or do you want to handle that one also?
3/2/2010 3:41:53 PM EDT
[#20]


I really, really don't like Hi-Points, and generally direct newbies to something like a Taurus 24/7 for a first auto for good price, but I have seen Beretta 92's crack slides like that pic.  Rossi revolvers are prob the only gun in the price range of the HP that I would ever shoot.
3/2/2010 4:34:55 PM EDT
[#21]
He could have got a Ruger P89, they are cheap, and I have never had an issue with mine.
3/2/2010 5:00:25 PM EDT
[#22]
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Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.


But his was new.  Seriously, the milsurps are milspec.  They work and are well made pistols.  I'm sorry, hi point may make a decent carbine, but their pistols suck.
3/2/2010 5:49:14 PM EDT
[#23]
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He could have got a Ruger P89, they are cheap, and I have never had an issue with mine.


+1
While not a huge Ruger fan, I find Hi-Points plain disgusting.
Anybody care to show a picture of a Ruger centerfire semi-auto handgun that failed because of poor manufacturing?
3/2/2010 7:11:59 PM EDT
[#24]
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Tell him to send it back. Everyone bashes Hi Point, but supposedly they have one of the best warranties in the business. Lifetime warranty and they'll fix almost anything.


This.  I'll bet he didn't clean and lube it though.  Just took it to the range.  New guns need to be cleaned and lubed.
3/2/2010 7:21:25 PM EDT
[#25]
I had a Hi-Point 40cal and it was by far one the of best shooting guns I have ever owned.  The 9mm's have a problem if you are using Winchester White Box, I have been told by gun store owners and gun owners alike.  The 40cal carbine I had was crap... sent it back 3-4 times and still busted.  On the other hand the 9mm carbine was good times and functioned fine with good ammo.  

Going back to the price vs. function...  I had a Taurus 1911AT that jammed more than your buddy's HP.  I would say for less expensive autoloaders I would look at the Ruger's or Taurus handguns.
3/3/2010 4:57:39 AM EDT
[#26]
I have on of the 9mm carbines and it's damn sweet, even if it is a Hi Point. Goes bang everytime and accurate as all hell.
3/3/2010 9:35:42 AM EDT
[#27]
I had a hipoint carbine that did the same thing.
3/3/2010 9:47:22 AM EDT
[#28]
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Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.


But his was new.  Seriously, the milsurps are milspec.  They work and are well made pistols.  I'm sorry, hi point may make a decent carbine, but their pistols suck.


You know the carbine is just the pistol with a long barrel and a shroud over the slide and a stock attached right?
3/4/2010 7:58:24 AM EDT
[#29]

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Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.


But his was new.  Seriously, the milsurps are milspec.  They work and are well made pistols.  I'm sorry, hi point may make a decent carbine, but their pistols suck.


You know the carbine is just the pistol with a long barrel and a shroud over the slide and a stock attached right?


A Barrel Shroud!!!??!!!






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3/4/2010 6:43:56 PM EDT
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Quoted:Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.
But his was new.  Seriously, the milsurps are milspec.  They work and are well made pistols.  I'm sorry, hi point may make a decent carbine, but their pistols suck.
You know the carbine is just the pistol with a long barrel and a shroud over the slide and a stock attached right?
A Barrel Shroud!!!??!!!







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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo
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a classic


there carbines are pretty nice..had a 40 a while back...had my brother in law put a 9mm in it and mushroomed the barrel in the center...sent it to hipoint and they sent me a new carbine...sold it for another project.
i have nothing bad to say about there carbine, pistols may be a diferent story but customer service is great with them
3/5/2010 11:00:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Never owned one but I watched a guy at the local range shooting a .40 S&W. the patterns it shot at 25 yards were amusing to say the least; especially with the bullets going tru the paper SIDEWAYS
3/5/2010 8:04:27 PM EDT
[#32]
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Quoted:Why do so many people over look surplus guns when looking for decent guns on a budget? Your friend could have picked up a Radom P64 from AIM for $170, which will actually work.
But his was new.  Seriously, the milsurps are milspec.  They work and are well made pistols.  I'm sorry, hi point may make a decent carbine, but their pistols suck.
You know the carbine is just the pistol with a long barrel and a shroud over the slide and a stock attached right?
A Barrel Shroud!!!??!!!







http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/vSFCJPrapAoiemJo9G0akQ18624/GW350H262

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo
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Holy shit, she actually said "the shoulder thing that goes up".  What a fucktard cunt whore bitch cunt fuckwad.
3/6/2010 1:21:29 AM EDT
[#33]
One of my friends had a hi-point 9mm they are cheap, heavy, and look like crap, but once you get past that they do work well, go bang every time, I shot it and are fairly accurate not great but not bad either.
3/6/2010 3:37:12 AM EDT
[#34]
How many of you that are bashing Hi-points have actually owned one? I bet none.
3/7/2010 10:36:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Well no more updates. My friends apartment was broken into this weekend. They took his Hi-point, ps3, clothes, games, and cash. What a bunch of a**holes...
3/8/2010 5:14:07 AM EDT
[#36]
That sucks about the break in, BTDT.  Does he have renters insurance?  If so, maybe he can start over with a higher quality gun.
3/8/2010 5:14:59 AM EDT
[#37]



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Well no more updates. My friends apartment was broken into this weekend. They took his Hi-point, ps3, clothes, games, and cash. What a bunch of a**holes...


epic home defense fail.



sorry to hear about your friend. at least he didn't lose a good gun...



 
3/8/2010 8:16:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Now that this has happened, he actually said this time he is going to save more for a better gun.
3/9/2010 5:02:55 AM EDT
[#39]
Man, I'd hate to go to club fed over a Hi Point.
3/10/2010 8:20:45 PM EDT
[#40]
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So a friend of mine wanted a handgun. Took him to the local firearm store and he seen the $175 price tag and said Ill take it. He bought the 40 cal.  I tried to talk him out of it but he said guns cost to much.
 
We went to the local range. He shot 50 rounds and out of them 8 jammed. The next day he shot 50 more and 13 jammed. Ill keep posting his shooting sessions so we can all see how much of a POS these are.


as of 3/1/2010- 100rds / 21jams


Whaddya expect out of a $170 gun???  

3/10/2010 9:32:55 PM EDT
[#41]
send it back, hi point will fix or replace it no questions
3/10/2010 10:50:50 PM EDT
[#42]
For around $300 he could have gotten a new Smith Sigma and they have a $50 rebate going on now.

CD
3/11/2010 12:48:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Are those S&W Sigmas pretty good guns? I was thinking about buying one cause it seemed to be pretty nice for the small investment.
3/11/2010 4:51:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Having a gun stolen sucks, but atleast he lost a cheap gun.

Now he can get something better, and maybe he should think about getting a lock box or mini safe and make sure he bolts it down to the floor.
3/11/2010 6:55:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Sorry to say bud, but your not comparing two quality gun manufactor, there basically o nthe same bar. Never had my Hk or Glocks jam ever 5k+ this year
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I had a Hi-Point 40cal and it was by far one the of best shooting guns I have ever owned.  The 9mm's have a problem if you are using Winchester White Box, I have been told by gun store owners and gun owners alike.  The 40cal carbine I had was crap... sent it back 3-4 times and still busted.  On the other hand the 9mm carbine was good times and functioned fine with good ammo.  

Going back to the price vs. function...  I had a Taurus 1911AT that jammed more than your buddy's HP.  I would say for less expensive autoloaders I would look at the Ruger's or Taurus handguns.