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10/13/2009 11:07:03 AM EDT
Does anyone have one of these? Im looking at buying one possibly, and would like some input from actual owners. It looks like a fun range gun. Has anyone here shot / own one? Any luck shooting one accurately?

Any input from actual owners is appreciated before I make my purchase.
10/13/2009 1:30:50 PM EDT
[#1]
I owned one for about a year.

In semi-auto, they are about a notch above worthless, unless "cool points at the range" is your primary motivator.

Trigger sucked, sights sucked, mags are rare and expensive.   No easy way to attach useful accessories.  It shot OK from a reliability standpoint, and accuracy wasn't bad.

But when you realize it won't do anything a Glock 17 can't do with 33 rd mags, the allure will evaporate.
10/13/2009 2:15:24 PM EDT
[#2]
I have one and it's purely a range toy. It was reliable and accurate, no complaints about function, it's well made. One thing i noticed with mine is if you slap a loaded mag in hard it'll drop the bolt and load up the next round automatically which is kinda cool.
10/13/2009 6:37:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I have one and it's purely a range toy. It was reliable and accurate, no complaints about function, it's well made. One thing i noticed with mine is if you slap a loaded mag in hard it'll drop the bolt and load up the next round automatically which is kinda cool.


a lot of euro guns do that.
10/13/2009 7:16:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Steyr sold the rights & tooling for the TMP/SPP to B&T.
B&T made some design improvements and relabled it the TP9 (SPP) and MP9 (TMP).

After handling both, IMO, the B&T TP9 seems to be a slight improvement over the Steyr SPP.
Trigger seemed better on the B&T over the Steyr.
10/14/2009 7:56:10 AM EDT
[#5]
Had one...

As a pistol, it was "meh" for the reasons listed above. As an SBR, I think it'd be sweet.

Mine didn't feed HPs at all, not even by accident. It was ball or nothing.

Now that DSA is selling new-made parts and such mags are cheaper and easier to find.
10/14/2009 8:30:43 AM EDT
[#6]
I just bought a TP9.

I'm going to use my Trident suppressor with it (TROS has adapters).

I'm going to SBR it.

As far as ammo compatibility, I find it strange that your gun did not feed hollow points....  the following photo is from this pdf:

http://www.brugger-thomet.ch/pdf/TS-MP9.pdf

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5444/ammo.png

Seems like the TP9 feeds hollow points fine....  in fact, it seems like this thing will shoot damn near anything, and according to some other accounts I have read of the TP9 online, that may be true.

Maybe yours has a problem?

edit:  oh....  you had/have an SPP, not a TP9.  Perhaps the TP9 feeds ammo more reliably than the SPP.
10/14/2009 9:52:57 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Seems like the TP9 feeds hollow points fine....  in fact, it seems like this thing will shoot damn near anything, and according to some other accounts I have read of the TP9 online, that may be true.

Maybe yours has a problem?

edit:  oh....  you had/have an SPP, not a TP9.  Perhaps the TP9 feeds ammo more reliably than the SPP.


Correct, not a TP9. AFAIK a TP9 is a product-improved SPP/TMP...it wouldn't surprise me to learn that they redid the feed arrangement to feed hollowpoints and SWCs. My SPP wouldn't feed anything with a flat point, at all. Not that it mattered that much; it was a range gun, nothing more...it was just annoying.

Otherwise, it was great. The recoil arrangement and rotating bolt made it very smooth and light recoiling to shoot. The charging handle seemed a bit flimsy...don't know if that's been improved upon. Disassembly was a little more involved than I'd like, but it wasn't especially difficult. The big thing was getting spares if anything broke, but that's no longer a problem...