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3/25/2004 8:24:08 PM EDT
Something wierd happened with my Springfield "loaded" and I can't determine exactly what occured.

I bought 2,000rnds of a .45acp from a local relaoder on the first crack. I have bought several 1,000 of .223 with no complaints but the pistol ammo (bought some .40 also) was crap. So the ammo is not top shelf however that is part of the problem and not a explaination.

I was shopping up the bottom of a ammo can with the reman'ed ammo and some "lone wolf". All ball ammo.

To the issue: the last round gave me a face full of power burn and blew the follower in the mag sideways and deep into the magazine.

The only explaination I have is that the power was slow to fully ignite and some power "took off" as the slide opened.

I can't see a .45 firing out of battery.

The report sounded funny but not a initial "blunt" sound.

Any ideas?

3/25/2004 9:31:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like a weak primer or bad powder.
The main reason I will not buy someone elses reloads
3/25/2004 11:13:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Don't know where you are in TX, but your "local reloader" isn't the dreaded "Houston Cartridge Company", is it?

Avoid them like the plague.
Their name is cursed regularly on the Ammunition forum.
3/25/2004 11:45:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Wow, I bet you had to change your shorts after that one!
3/26/2004 6:07:42 AM EDT
[#4]
The ammo probably was from DRC in Dallas.
3/26/2004 6:16:03 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Wow, I bet you had to change your shorts after that one!



It certainly re-interated to ALWAYS where shotting glasses!!!!!!
3/26/2004 9:10:06 AM EDT
[#6]
That sounds like an overpressure load that caused the case to burst in the unsupported area of the case.

Your lucky if that happened as it normally destroys the gun.

I wouldn't use the rest of the ammo.

3/26/2004 9:47:26 AM EDT
[#7]
do not fire reloads, unless you are the loader, only you love you enough to carefully load your ammo
3/26/2004 11:01:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Never shoot reloads. Always but your ammo from a reputable company. Glad to hear you're alright.
3/26/2004 11:19:36 AM EDT
[#9]
There are plenty of places online to buy factory loaded ammunition at good prices.

Stick with that...there's no excuse not to.

Alot of times, natchez runs pretty good deals on American Eagle .45
3/26/2004 5:11:28 PM EDT
[#10]
My guess, the brass may have been reloaded too many times and let loose at the unsupported chamber area.
A normal charge with weak brass can do that.
The weird sound was the normal blast somewhat diverting from the muzzle and blowing into the magazine, rapidly venting.
I saw what a double charge did to a S&W 645, we never found the magazine base plate and the brass was fire formed around the Smith's feed ramp.
It warped the aftermarket rubber grips and popped out the slidestop.
Good advice given, reload your own or buy factory, your gun will love ya for it.
3/28/2004 1:37:28 PM EDT
[#11]
DOWN WITH RELOADS!

I had a similar thing happen maybe 10 years ago.  I was firing my Glock 21, there was a funny sound and then I was being sprinkled with powder.  Luckily it was the last round because the bullet was also stuck in the barrel!  I never found out how that happened, and never used reloads again.
3/28/2004 1:53:17 PM EDT
[#12]
I reload my own, but I never use anyone else's.  That almost sounds like two different types of powder in one load.  Different powders have different burn rates.  If you use a fast burning powder mixed with a "slow" burning powder something like what you are describing can happen.  Hard to say w/o seeing or hearing it, but I think you should reconsider buying reloads from this company anymore.  I never mix powders, I don't even mix batch #'s of the same company.  I use Bullseye smokeless pistol powder right now and I will not refill the powder tube with powder from a different bottle.  Mass reloaders may not pay particular attention to minor things like that and cause issues like yours.  Glad your OK.
3/28/2004 1:56:38 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
DOWN WITH RELOADS!

I had a similar thing happen maybe 10 years ago.  I was firing my Glock 21, there was a funny sound and then I was being sprinkled with powder.  Luckily it was the last round because the bullet was also stuck in the barrel!  I never found out how that happened, and never used reloads again.



That almost sounds like an empty shell.  The primer forced the bullet out of the shell but not down the barrel.  Again, due to careless reloading and not double checking your product (not on your part, on the part of the reloader).  Did the gun cycle when you fired this round?  I would think that the power of the primer would not be enough to cycle the slide.
3/29/2004 7:53:48 PM EDT
[#14]

captainpooby
 3/26/2004 3:01:00 PM

Never shoot reloads. Always but your ammo from a reputable company. Glad to hear you're alright.




Moe-Ron
 3/28/2004 5:37:28 PM

DOWN WITH RELOADS!

I had a similar thing happen maybe 10 years ago. I was firing my Glock 21, there was a funny sound and then I was being sprinkled with powder. Luckily it was the last round because the bullet was also stuck in the barrel! I never found out how that happened, and never used reloads again.



These have to be the two most ignorant statements I've ever seen on a gun board.

Don't shoot someone elses reloads I can understand. Don't shoot reloads? Balderdash!

If you are of normal intelligence and take the required precautions, handloads are as safe or safer than any ammo you can buy. Hell, even the ammo companies make mistakes. I think it was Winchester that recalled a few million rounds of 22LR a few years ago because of double charges. Oops!  Your ammo is probably safer since you are watching ever step of every round being produced. Not just some schmo standing on an assembly line and randomly checking ammo being spit out by a machine at the rate of several thousand rounds an hour.  

Personally, I take pride in never using store bought ammo, with the exceptions of breaking in a brand new gun or 223 blasting ammo just because it's cheap and I go through a lot of it. The only reason I use it in a new gun is so that if the gun breaks, I can hand it back to the manufacturer and tell them that the problem was not with my ammo.

What would you have done if you lived in the times before store bought centerfire ammunition?
Sent your muzzle loader to a gunsmith to get it reloaded?

Reloading is a dimension of firearms that you will never have the pleasure of experiencing by bellying up to the sporting goods counter at Wally-World to buy ammo.
3/29/2004 8:10:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Really does sound like a case blowout.

I've reloaded thousands of rounds of handgun ammo, most of it .45. I only used a single stage press and followed all the safety rules to the letter.

Even so, its possible to get a bad primer, weak case, hiccup in the powder feed, bullet seated a little to deep, etc.

There's a certain risk involved in saving a little money by using reloaded ammo.

Only you can decide if its worth the risk.