Posted: 2/11/2009 4:51:32 PM EDT
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I have a budget of $1K. The catch is... That budget must include a .22lr conversion. So the pistol must be around $700 max. I'm thinking 10mm, 9mm, or 45. (suggestions on this...) Maybe a Glock? Maybe a 1911 (too pricey...?) Thanks! |
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buds guns is offering a deal where you can buy a sig p220 .22lr pistol which is a full size sig p220 frame with the .22lr slide, and when you buy that, you get a coupon to buy the full size .45 p220 slide as well. in essence, you pay 800 for a sig p220 plus a sig .22lr slide conversion as well. keep in mind regular sig p220 go for close to 800 new without the .22lr conversion slide, so i think this deal is very good and fits your crtieria quite well.
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+1, they offer the same deal with the P226 and the P229, so you have your choice of calibers.
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buds guns is offering a deal where you can buy a sig p220 .22lr pistol which is a full size sig p220 frame with the .22lr slide, and when you buy that, you get a coupon to buy the full size .45 p220 slide as well. in essence, you pay 800 for a sig p220 plus a sig .22lr slide conversion as well. keep in mind regular sig p220 go for close to 800 new without the .22lr conversion slide, so i think this deal is very good and fits your crtieria quite well. HERE is the link to the gun |
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Glock pistol and Advantage Arms conversion kit. Only problem is the conversion kit is hard to come by nowadays. If you get on the waiting list you may get one in two months or so. It's not back ordered on their website... 
Also the local gunshop has one in stock. |
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+1, they offer the same deal with the P226 and the P229, so you have your choice of calibers. Quoted:
buds guns is offering a deal where you can buy a sig p220 .22lr pistol which is a full size sig p220 frame with the .22lr slide, and when you buy that, you get a coupon to buy the full size .45 p220 slide as well. in essence, you pay 800 for a sig p220 plus a sig .22lr slide conversion as well. keep in mind regular sig p220 go for close to 800 new without the .22lr conversion slide, so i think this deal is very good and fits your crtieria quite well. HERE is the link to the gun What is the difference between the 220, 226 and 229? Thanks! |
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buds guns is offering a deal where you can buy a sig p220 .22lr pistol which is a full size sig p220 frame with the .22lr slide, and when you buy that, you get a coupon to buy the full size .45 p220 slide as well. in essence, you pay 800 for a sig p220 plus a sig .22lr slide conversion as well. keep in mind regular sig p220 go for close to 800 new without the .22lr conversion slide, so i think this deal is very good and fits your crtieria quite well. HERE is the link to the gun What is the difference between the 220, 226 and 229? Thanks! 220 = full size .45. 8rds, 5" DA/SA is the most common. 226 = full size 9/.40.357sig 229 = compact 9/.40/357sig All great guns! |
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CZ-75? That's exactly what I was thinking. The CZ-75 is one of the best 9mm pistols money can buy. And yes, it has a .22 conversion set-up. Little known fact: The CZ-75 is used by more military forces worldwide than any other gun, including the Glock. Got a link? With all due respect I seriously doubt that. |
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Beretta 92FS. Reliable, accurate, and has a good .22lr conversion for it.
Both can be had in your budget with some room for extras. Changing out the hammer spring is a quick, do-it-yourself way of lightening the trigger pull. Lots of mags, aftermarket parts and holsters for it. Still the standard issue of our military and probably will be for a while regardless of what the Kool-Aid drinking girlscouts cry about.
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CZ-75? That's exactly what I was thinking. The CZ-75 is one of the best 9mm pistols money can buy. And yes, it has a .22 conversion set-up. Little known fact: The CZ-75 is used by more military forces worldwide than any other gun, including the Glock. Got a link? With all due respect I seriously doubt that. He's quoting Wiki again.
According to Wiki, though, Glocks are in use by 35 countries whereas the CZ75 is in use by 13. The number of Glocks in law enforcement service in the US alone is staggering. |
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CZ-75? That's exactly what I was thinking. The CZ-75 is one of the best 9mm pistols money can buy. And yes, it has a .22 conversion set-up. Little known fact: The CZ-75 is used by more military forces worldwide than any other gun, including the Glock. Got a link? With all due respect I seriously doubt that. He's quoting Wiki again.
According to Wiki, though, Glocks are in use by 35 countries whereas the CZ75 is in use by 13. The number of Glocks in law enforcement service in the US alone is staggering. No, I'm not "quoting WIki again". (And doesn't the word "again" imply that you think I've done this before? Methinks you have your facts a little confused, Bradd_D )
I'm quoting CZ's own website, wherein they state, "CZ 75 B is used by more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world." http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=29 Unless you have information and a link that refutes this claim, I'll assume the information on their website is true and accurate. |
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CZ-75? That's exactly what I was thinking. The CZ-75 is one of the best 9mm pistols money can buy. And yes, it has a .22 conversion set-up. Little known fact: The CZ-75 is used by more military forces worldwide than any other gun, including the Glock. Got a link? With all due respect I seriously doubt that. He's quoting Wiki again.
According to Wiki, though, Glocks are in use by 35 countries whereas the CZ75 is in use by 13. The number of Glocks in law enforcement service in the US alone is staggering. No, I'm not "quoting WIki again". (And doesn't the word "again" imply that you think I've done this before? Methinks you have your facts a little confused, Bradd_D )
I'm quoting CZ's own website, wherein they state, "CZ 75 B is used by more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world." http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=29 Unless you have information and a link that refutes this claim, I'll assume the information on their website is true and accurate. And you also claim that the Iraqi police are using Arcus pistols because the manufacturer says so even though it is widely known that they purchased Glock 19's. It very well may be true, but you need something more credible than a manufacturer's website. I mean Vulcan Armament's slogan is "The Machine Guns of the Special Forces!". I would be willing to wager that there are more Glocks in service in the US alone than there are CZ75's worldwide. ETA: An example of a credible source of information. |
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CZ-75? That's exactly what I was thinking. The CZ-75 is one of the best 9mm pistols money can buy. And yes, it has a .22 conversion set-up. Little known fact: The CZ-75 is used by more military forces worldwide than any other gun, including the Glock. Got a link? With all due respect I seriously doubt that. He's quoting Wiki again.
According to Wiki, though, Glocks are in use by 35 countries whereas the CZ75 is in use by 13. The number of Glocks in law enforcement service in the US alone is staggering. No, I'm not "quoting WIki again". (And doesn't the word "again" imply that you think I've done this before? Methinks you have your facts a little confused, Bradd_D )
I'm quoting CZ's own website, wherein they state, "CZ 75 B is used by more Governments, Militaries, Police and Security agencies than any other pistol in the world." http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=29 Unless you have information and a link that refutes this claim, I'll assume the information on their website is true and accurate. And you also claim that the Iraqi police are using Arcus pistols because the manufacturer says so even though it is widely known that they purchased Glock 19's. It very well may be true, but you need something more credible than a manufacturer's website. I mean Vulcan Armament's slogan is "The Machine Guns of the Special Forces!". I would be willing to wager that there are more Glocks in service in the US alone than there are CZ75's worldwide. ETA: An example of a credible source of information. I claimed the Iraqi police are using Arcus pistols, because they are using Arcus pistols. Yes, they're also using Glock pistols. And you know what else they're using? Sig and Walther pistols, too. (I specifically remember this because when I read it, I recall thinking to myself, "Wow, the Arcus is in good company.") And that's why the manufacturer makes the claim...because it's true. And really, it would be kind of an odd thing to lie about in any regard. And BTW, the Iraqi Police didn't "purchase" squat as you stated. The U.S. government (i.e., you and me) paid for these pistols. 138,813 Glocks to be exact. The remaining 38,053 pistols the U.S. bought were the Arcus, Walther and Sig pistols. http://www.sigir.mil/reports/pdf/audits/06-033.pdf As for the CZ, I have no reason to doubt their claim. Remember, that pistol has been around since 1975, and I would imagine that during the Cold War, it was probably the best pistol going behind the Red Curtain. The CZ-75 was a mysterious gun to Westerners until the mid-1980's, but I have no doubt it's distribution during the Cold War was substantial. But I'm getting off-point. What I mean to impress here is that until I see evidence to the contrary, I have no reason to doubt their claim. To be sure, you have not presented anything that would cause me to think different. P.S. I still don't know where you came up with the "Wiki" stuff. Bizarre. |
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I claimed the Iraqi police are using Arcus pistols, because they are using Arcus pistols. Yes, they're also using Glock pistols. And you know what else they're using? Sig and Walther pistols, too. (I specifically remember this because when I read it, I recall thinking to myself, "Wow, the Arcus is in good company.") And that's why the manufacturer makes the claim...because it's true. And really, it would be kind of an odd thing to lie about in any regard. And BTW, the Iraqi Police didn't "purchase" squat as you stated. The U.S. government (i.e., you and me) paid for these pistols. 138,813 Glocks to be exact. The remaining 38,053 pistols the U.S. bought were the Arcus, Walther and Sig pistols. http://www.sigir.mil/reports/pdf/audits/06-033.pdf That document does not specify what pistols comprise Pistol, 9mm, Generic. Can you provide something clarifying that? Also, this quote from the report implies that any other weapons being procured are not in service with the Iraqi police. The Glock 9mm pistol, the weapon selected by MNSTC-I as the sidearm for the Iraqi police forces, is widely used by police departments within the United States because of it's safety and reliability features. As for the CZ, I have no reason to doubt their claim. Remember, that pistol has been around since 1975, and I would imagine that during the Cold War, it was probably the best pistol going behind the Red Curtain. The CZ-75 was a mysterious gun to Westerners until the mid-1980's, but I have no doubt it's distribution during the Cold War was substantial. But I'm getting off-point. What I mean to impress here is that until I see evidence to the contrary, I have no reason to doubt their claim. To be sure, you have not presented anything that would cause me to think different.
Actually, the Makarov in it's many iterations was the prominent sidearm for Warsaw Pact countries. I've presented a comparison of countries using the Glock and countries using the CZ 75. You've presented nothing other than marketing hype to show dominance by the CZ. Do you have any stats or articles? P.S. I still don't know where you came up with the "Wiki" stuff. Bizarre.
The quotes you use are word for word on Wiki. Probably because the person writing the articles is presenting the manufacturers claims as fact. |
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Glock pistol and Advantage Arms conversion kit. Only problem is the conversion kit is hard to come by nowadays. If you get on the waiting list you may get one in two months or so. It's not back ordered on their website...
Also the local gunshop has one in stock. My apologies for not being more specific. The AA kits for the Glock 17 and 19 (the more popular kits) are backordered and hard to come by. I don't know which one is available locally for you but if you want, get it while you can .
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