Posted: 12/18/2008 7:29:36 PM EDT
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This is my first handgun with a decocker. I am more of a rifle guy and know very little about handguns. My understanding is when I press the decocker it is supposed to drop the hammer. When I am doing this the hammer is not moving. Am I supposed to press in on the decocker and pull the trigger? I am clueless and need your help. It is a CZ SP01 Tactical.
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IIRC: you simply push down fully on the safety lever...it will drop it past the "fire" selection (think of it having 3 steps in the safety lever: safe, fire, decock––in that order, from "top" to bottom)
you do NOT pull the trigger (or do anything w/ the trigger) while decocking hold one while i confirm... |
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Thanks. The term "fully" made the difference. I just needed to push down on it a little harder (Thats what she said). I was doing this with snap caps, not a live round, just for the record. Not that much of a noob.  yea, glad it worked...its been a while since i shot a CZ 
cool, glad you are staying safe: ALWAYS double/tripple check to ensure there are NO live rnds in the area while "playing"/dry firing/cleaning/etc maintainance work w/ gun 
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Any decocker is designed to lower the hammer without firing the round, whether it has a safety on it, like yours, or not, like a Sig. It's a simple trick. Pretty much all of these guns have a firing pin block, which is a pin that prevents the firing pin from moving forward to strike the primer. When you pull the trigger, a cam pushes the firing pin block out of the way and the firing pin can move. The decocker doesn't move the firing pin block, so the firing pin can't hit the priner and fire the gun.
Of course, this is no substitute for safe handling, but now you know how the system works. |
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Just as an extra precaution, when I decock I also ride the hammer down with my thumb so it does not slam against anything, much like you would if you were decocking with the trigger. Just a habit of mine. I don't trust mechanical safeties. You do realize that you are relying on a passive internal mechanical safety once the hammer is down, right? ETA: Quoted:
IIRC: you simply push down fully on the safety lever...it will drop it past the "fire" selection (think of it having 3 steps in the safety lever: safe, fire, decock––in that order, from "top" to bottom) you do NOT pull the trigger (or do anything w/ the trigger) while decocking hold one while i confirm... FYI, decocker-model CZs do not have any external safety capacity. They are like SIGs in this regard. HKs (e.g., V1 USP) are available with safety + decocker combos, which operate as you describe - safe up, center fire, down decock. And then you have stuff like the Beretta 92FS, where the only way to engage the external safety will simultaneously decock the pistol. |
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Just as an extra precaution, when I decock I also ride the hammer down with my thumb so it does not slam against anything, much like you would if you were decocking with the trigger. Just a habit of mine. I don't trust mechanical safeties. You do realize that you are relying on a passive internal mechanical safety once the hammer is down, right? Yes. But I don't let the hammer drop on them. On my particular "decocker" style pistol, HK USP models, when I decock it it rests on a piece called the catch. This is actually the piece that it hits when you decock it. It doesn't slam onto the firing pin and get stopped ultimately by the firing pin block. You actually would have to break past the catch and the firing pin block to get the firing pin to move when you decock. Not likely at all... but I want this pistol to last a long, long time, so I see no point in accelerating any wear on it. So I just take the extra 0.02 seconds to decock and ride that hammer down to sit on the catch. |