Posted: 12/4/2008 12:04:17 AM EDT
| Ok guys im going to pick up my XD-M 9 week after next but i also want another gun to go along with it in a lager caliber. I really like the springfield TRP 1911 but then i got to thinking why spend 1200 on a 1911 when i can get and XD-M .45 (when they come out) for half the price. So why a 1911? Why spend so much money for so little rounds? Thx guys for the replies |
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Assuming you carry, you can carry a 1911, I doubt you can carry a XD-M very easily.
Also, there's lots of 1911s that don't cost that much. Oh, and you better hope the XD-M45 (assuming they make it) comes out before January 21st, because after that you're not going to be able to get mags bigger than 10 rounds anyway. 
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| I confess I really like the 1911. I really like the feel of a single stack 1911 with a nice beavertail grip safety. While I have a Series 70 Colt rebuilt by a good gunsmith many years ago, when I wanted a gun for IPSC, I decided to build it myself. I got a Caspian frame and slide and put things together. I wimped out on the barrel and sent it to Novak in WV and let him install a Kart fully ramped .45 barrel. The resulting gun has a terrific trigger, shoots very well indead, and has enough clearance between the slide and frame that it can keep shooting all day without failure. This isn't rocket science. |
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Ok guys im going to pick up my XD-M 9 week after next but i also want another gun to go along with it in a lager caliber. I really like the springfield TRP 1911 but then i got to thinking why spend 1200 on a 1911 when i can get and XD-M .45 (when they come out) for half the price. So why a 1911? Why spend so much money for so little rounds? Thx guys for the replies The reason why the 1911 was used by elite military units for so long was because it is probably the easiest centerfire handgun to shoot under stress. The good ergonomics of the pistol combined with a really nice trigger meant that it took very little conscious effort to obtain superb accuracy in the middle of a gunfight. This is also why you see top level competition shooters using 1911 designs, although their guns have 2 pound or lighter triggers on them. This ease of use under stress gave the 1911 the title of the "King of Combat Handguns". 1911's, however, are difficult to make properly and hard to maintain, leading to the title of "King of Feedway Stoppages". The 1911 is an enthusiast's handgun. It is not the weapon for those who want to treat their handgun like a lawnmower. Why spend so much money for so few rounds? For the same reason that the elite military guys spent so much time, effort, and money to keep their 1911's...because when the chips were down they needed to be able to make hits. Should *you* spend the time and money to get a good 1911? The economics of it don't make sense for most people. |
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Assuming you carry, you can carry a 1911, I doubt you can carry a XD-M very easily. Also, there's lots of 1911s that don't cost that much. Oh, and you better hope the XD-M45 (assuming they make it) comes out before January 21st, because after that you're not going to be able to get mags bigger than 10 rounds anyway. It will be a little longer than that.........I say the 22nd. 
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The reason why the 1911 was used by elite military units for so long was because it is probably the easiest centerfire handgun to shoot under stress. The good ergonomics of the pistol combined with a really nice trigger meant that it took very little conscious effort to obtain superb accuracy in the middle of a gunfight. This is also why you see top level competition shooters using 1911 designs, although their guns have 2 pound or lighter triggers on them. This ease of use under stress gave the 1911 the title of the "King of Combat Handguns". 1911's, however, are difficult to make properly and hard to maintain, leading to the title of "King of Feedway Stoppages". The 1911 is an enthusiast's handgun. It is not the weapon for those who want to treat their handgun like a lawnmower. Why spend so much money for so few rounds? For the same reason that the elite military guys spent so much time, effort, and money to keep their 1911's...because when the chips were down they needed to be able to make hits. Should *you* spend the time and money to get a good 1911? The economics of it don't make sense for most people. Very well said, very well said indeed. |
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I think the 1911 is a wonderful gun, but if you like the XD I say get one. Capacity is greater than sentiment. And accuracy is greater than capacity. TRP. Accuracy is diminished by adrenalin, and most self defense shootings happen at a distance of only a few feet. |
| Right now, I have 5 .45's..2 1911's a Sig p-220, aXD45 4"bbl and a SW M&P45 4"bbl The one thing you should know about the Xd is that they will not feed LSWC's they are only good for roundnosed or truncated cone type of bullets. If you don't reload I guess it's a moot point, but if you do reload keep this in mind. All of the other .45's I have will feed LSWC's with no problems, the Xd is a problem child in that dept, And there is no known cure for this, as the root cause is the design itself, The XD was designed around roundnosed and truncated type of bullets,(I know so were the 1911's but most 1911's sold today will feed LSWC's right out of the box, the XD never will) and I guess the use of SWC's was never addressed... |
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I think the 1911 is a wonderful gun, but if you like the XD I say get one. Capacity is greater than sentiment. And accuracy is greater than capacity. TRP. Accuracy is diminished by adrenalin, and most self defense shootings happen at a distance of only a few feet. ... and only 3.5 shots are fired IIRC 
And the 1911 is a good gun for shooting under stress. Having a gun that's already less mechanically accurate, and not as conducive to accurate shooting in a stressful situation is going to be better how? By then you might need all those rounds to get a hit or two! Sure hope the shooting doesn't happen at 7.1 yards 
Not all shootings are resolved in 4 shots, and they don't all happen at 7 yards either. Carry a platform that you can use, and train with it! Carry quality ammo, maintain it properly, be comfortable with it- and then pray you never have to use it. The XD is a reliable gun, I'd choose one over a glock. However, the TRP is a good example of the 1911, which IMO is easily better. |
