Posted: 11/26/2008 5:54:20 AM EDT
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When I took my CHL renewal this past August there were 19 in my class. At the range 3 guns failed and had to be replaced with rental units. I was shocked at the number of failures.
1st failure was a Beretta 92, it sufffered from 2 failures to eject 2nd failure was a Walther PPK, c cleaning rod was needed to remove stuck case from chamber. 3rd and a surprise to me was a new Kahr .40 S&W this gun failed to eject as well. I have never seen so many failures in one range session. All guns appeared to be in like new condition but the experience level of the shooters was low. |
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All guns appeared to be in like new condition but the experience level of the shooters was low. Sounds like they also didn't know proper maintenance of the firearm and it's magazines then. Long as you take care of a semi auto, they will take care of you. Some folks say that I'm paranoid by replacing the springs in all my handguns once a year - and maybe they're right - but I won't ever have to worry about failures as long as I clean and lube 'em 
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From recent threads I've read about shooting classes, Glocks and HK's seem to be most immune to malfunctions, though I've had shooter induced/weak ammo malfunctions with Glocks.
Every HK I've owned has malfunctioned on the first round I've fired, then never again- despite a quick cleaning prior to it's first range trip. |
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At my class the instructors kimber kept stovepiping.
I was expecting to hear of other failures. Like in my class there were at least 3 people that had obviously never even been to the range before. One of which was a female that had a revolver that swept the teacher (yes with her dirty finger on the trigger) and he didn't even notice. Me and my two buddies that were there quickly stepped away from all of the gun swinging and stayed in a safe place until it was our turn on the line. Now that is a CHL class failure. |
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All guns appeared to be in like new condition but the experience level of the shooters was low. Sounds like they also didn't know proper maintenance of the firearm and it's magazines then. Long as you take care of a semi auto, they will take care of you. Some folks say that I'm paranoid by replacing the springs in all my handguns once a year - and maybe they're right - but I won't ever have to worry about failures as long as I clean and lube 'em I am not the best about handgun maintenance. I shoot my Glocks 200-400 rounds before cleaning sometimes. As far as replaceing springs, never. Do you really replace all of the springs or just the recoil spring? |
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That is not a high failure rate, the ppk it would be expected, Just a guess but I would say over half of the safe queens
out there can't run 200 rounds without a failure, maybe more. Most guns need to be run enough to find out what ammo they like. It's not that competitors guns are so much better, it is that they and the shooter are tuned to a specific load. I used to shoot a lot of running deer and I was originally surprised at how many bolt rifles wouldn't run 5 rounds without a ftf. It's just no one ever seems to do it until they compete or get in a class. I have friends that go out a blast through boxes of ammo with multiple failures and they discount it later to "oh that wasn't a jam, it was just cheap ammo" , some don't remember at all. |
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