Posted: 9/9/2008 2:34:51 PM EDT
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i am getting mixed responses on this question from my buddies, so i will put it to you guys... is there a market for a glock type single stack? |
maybe...but probably not as already mentioned, the PPS, Khar, roghbararms (sp?), keltec, etc already make such items; glock imo would do just as well to put it in the market simply b/c of the name backing it |
what is a roghbararms sp? |
www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/product/prod_set.html |
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I voted "9mm Fullsize" About 3 months or so ago, I switched to Glocks - bought a G17 and G19. With the 19, I've tried to shove my palm up into the magwell a few too many times. Still have the remnants of the blood blisters. Figuring I'll keep the 19 for MTBing days, carrying in the lumbar pack, etc. Or maybe I'll just sell it...I haven't decided yet. The 17 shoots great for me - but the grip is long/wide, and seems to poke out a little more when CHLing. Think I've bought about 8 holsters, trying everything. A 'single stack G17' is something I'd like to see. |
Mine's an EDC at the shop. www.walther-pps.com/ |
it is possible to make the slide thinner - g36 style
shoot me an IM about your G19 - i have an idea |
 Now you are talking As for a single stack Glock...I am of the group that says who cares. To me the best thing about the sub-compact Glocks are the fact they can still use full size mags. If you want a thin 9mm go with a Kahr, Walther or surplus SIG P225 |
Oh, I know it's weird as all get out. But here's the deal: It has a polymer frame, and is very, very light. Do they do the same weird target sight routine that Glock does? I'm really surprised that they can be imported at all. |
The mag release is, indeed, goofy. I don't really like it, although I can operate it easily enough. The mags don't bother me. I can change them rapidly enough, They're not that expensive (I've owned P7s - PSP,M8, M13), and I don't have a problem pinching my (large) hands. Mine has been totally reliable, at about 750 rounds now. Mixed between Win NATO 124gr, AE 115gr, UMC 115gr, Ranger T 124gr, GDHP 124gr, and FC Tactical Bonded 124gr. I can't speak for others, but I'm pretty happy. I find recoil to be very easy to manage, and the trigger to be pretty good. Frankly, its similarity to a Glock is striking. Mine is fairly late. It is a two-tone, grey-green frame and black slide. And boy, is it thin. As thin as the K9 I have, and it really disappears in the waistband. |
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While I wouldn't mind seeing one... I've heard on more than one occasion that Glock is over 100,000 pistols behind. Why make that number worse with a new model (yeah, I hear you about the 30SF, but that wasn't a huge change)? I ordered two G19s with the 'good guy' package about a month ago. The dealer told me not to hold my breath on my order. |
| I dont think there would be a market for them. Only a very few people would buy them. I think they would only sell to the huge gun enthusiast who is looking for that particular gun. Most people who buy handguns are, lets face it, not that educated or well trained and think that the more rounds they can cram into a handgun the better. People want as much ammo as they can get so they can "spray and pray." |
 So cops always just spray and pray? Compeititon shooters spray and pray? You can't do that on other guns? |
I think there is. Thats why I bought a Kahr PM9. My G19 is great until you have to wear dress clothes and then its just so thick (same with the G26). The PM9 is so thin and small it goes with me most of the time now. It has been a great little handgun so far but I trust Glock 100% and would much rather carry and trust my life to one. |
I was reffering to the untrained shooter, as the post said. Most, competition shooters also use 1911s so why would they need a single stack glock? And dont take this as an insult to police, because I respect what they do, but just because they are cops doesnt mean they have recieved the best weapons training. |
Glock needs a .40 or even better in the .45 GAP in a slim, single stack configuration that is comparable in size to the Kahr. I would like to see something that is as thin as a 1911, if they build this it would be my new back-up/off duty. |
| I like the Glock's simplicity and reliability but IMHO, Glock needs to update their design with an ergonomic grip angle and interchangeable backstraps that ALL new polymer designs are eventually going to offer (SIG PRO, XDm, M&P etc..). Glock is starting to remind me of Colt in that their own arrogance is impeding their forward progress and if they don't update their pistol design, they are going to get run over by their competition. Several police agencies already traded in their glocks for S&W M&Ps Without the police market, Glock is doomed. There are still a large number of people, myself included that find the grip angle of the Glock uncomfortably awkward. I had a Glock with a grip reduction and it still didn't feel as good as the M&P or XD. |
+1 I like my Kahr but I just don't feel as confident with it's reliability as I do with my Glock. |
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Glock truly missed the boat when they made the G37. The G37 SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SINGLE STACK 45ACP. Similar to the G36 but with two more rounds and a longer grip. It would have taken a huge chunk out of the current 1911 market and would have made the current crop of XD's and M&P's unnessary. The XD and M&P are advertised as slimmer than the glock, that would have been made moot by a single stack Glock 45. The next huge mistake they made is not making a slim, compact 9mm. They have lost the market to othermanufactures that have filled the needs of CCW'ers The next huge mistake that Glock made was not making a Carbine to accept 9mm, 40 and 45acp glock mags. Shooters are spending thousands of $$$ on AR conversions and other carbine models. Glock has lost the market on Pistol Caliber Carbines. Glock Firearms are very good guns and the Glock company will continue to thrive, But for me they have basically lost a customer. I have had 14 glocks and am down to 2, a G17 and G22. I went to other manufacturers to fill my needs. At this point I think it might be too late for them to catch up, but If they made these particular items they would sell for sure, maybe its not too late. |