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3/30/2008 6:05:51 AM EDT
I know I am going to stir up the hive on this, but I need a little help. I have the chance to get either a Springfield XD45 or a Glock 21 for about the same price. Which would you get and why? Thanks.

Mike
3/30/2008 6:19:59 AM EDT
[#1]
XD, no question.  The trigger is better and the grip angle is better.  I haven't owned a Glock 21, but I had a Glock 20 for about a month(same gun, different chambering).  I didn't care for it.  I really like my XD though.
3/30/2008 6:45:25 AM EDT
[#2]
XD, as stated above it has a better grip angle and trigger.
3/30/2008 6:51:25 AM EDT
[#3]
get both
3/30/2008 6:52:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Try and go handle them, and see which one feels better to you.  I have both a Glock and a 45xd and like the XD much better.
3/30/2008 6:55:51 AM EDT
[#5]
XD all the way, there have been at least 3 people buy one after shooting mine easy to handle, very accurate and holds 13 rounds to boot
3/30/2008 7:23:35 AM EDT
[#6]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=50601

G21 (SF) for me--while i'll agree the XD has a better grip angle and contour and trigger feel, the narrower grip safety, trigger reset, and lack of parts (and PITAness to change a lot of the parts, esp the ones in the grip safety area and trigger portions) keeps me from em
3/30/2008 7:35:17 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=50601

G21 (SF) for me--while i'll agree the XD has a better grip angle and contour and trigger feel, the narrower grip safety, trigger reset, and lack of parts (and PITAness to change a lot of the parts, esp the ones in the grip safety area and trigger portions) keeps me from em


I tried a search, but didn't find that one. The poll doesn't help much because there is only one vote difference between the G21 and the XD. I am leaning XD now as I have never liked the grip angle of Glocks. Plus you get all of the free SWAG with the XD. The DHS deal on the GLock only gives me 3 mags instead of 2.

Mike F
3/30/2008 7:55:06 AM EDT
[#8]
The one time I picked up a 21 I just laughed. 9mm Glocks are like holding a 2x4 to me and the 21 was like holding a 4x4. I do not exactly have small hands either. I picked up the XD9 Service and it sits in my nightstand. I want to like Glocks because of their reputation but I cannot stand the grips or the triggers so they get passed over.
3/30/2008 10:14:03 AM EDT
[#9]
Get the XD-45 with the 5" barrel and the compact frame. Trust me, you'll love it.

After that, send it to Springfield Custom Shop and let them work the trigger a little bit and add an overstravel stop. It's an extra $150 but it will make even a 1911 fan love a polymer gun. Ask me how I know...
3/30/2008 10:52:38 AM EDT
[#10]
I'd say shoot both and go with whichever you prefer.

Personally, like most other people in this thread, I preferred the grip angle and trigger on the XD.  I don't find the Glock grip to be uncomfortable, it just doesn't point as naturally for me as the XD.  

Also, the XD triggers get even better as they wear in.  After 750 rds or so, it'll be noticeably smoother.
3/30/2008 10:30:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Go with the xd, I have a pair of them in 9mm. If you pick up a glock 21 it freaking huge, it is really a joke. the xd 45 is just like the 9mm xd's maybe a touch bigger. It has a similar feel as like a H&K usp45 grip size wise, just alot easier on the wallet . I sold my usp and am buying a xd 45 post haste if that tells you anything. I had a glock 17 it is now a xd 9 service model. they are the best hand gun for the money hands down  
3/30/2008 10:45:17 PM EDT
[#12]
check out G21SF also
3/30/2008 10:55:45 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
get both


definately
3/31/2008 6:37:30 AM EDT
[#14]
I have a Glock 26 9mm and my brother has an XD 5" Tactical model with the stainless slide in .45 and after shooting that gun for a bit I have to say I much prefer the XD grip. Both triggers are good, I wouldn't say one is better but they are different. I also prefer the stock sights on an XD to the stock sights on a Glock. Plus the XD has metal mags which seems to help the mags fall free from the mag well if nothing else.
3/31/2008 7:50:28 AM EDT
[#15]
I admit the XD does grip better (I'm an unapologetic Glock fanatic).

The Glock shoots better though.  

What do you buy a gun to do?  Hold it all day at home or run it hard at the range/classes/matches/ etc?  
3/31/2008 12:09:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Glock.

Much better finish.  Much better track record *been around longer, kinks are worked out*.

PARTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR IT without having to send it back to the manufacturer

Shorter and more crisp reset point

SF frame more managable for most.
3/31/2008 12:27:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Of those 2, I agree with Marksman and would go with the Glock.  

I've seen the XD go down a lot more in training classes than the G21.

-The "extras" you get from Springfield are POS fobus-quality crap. - NOT something I'd carry.
-XD spare parts are tough to get (getting better but still difficult)
-The XD grip safety makes 1-handed reloads "difficult" - I've seen XDs lock up and take 2 guys to "unjam" them after the slide locked up due to grip-safety issues.


If you absolutely hate the G21 grip angle and must have a "By-GOD .45", look at a HK USP

Stay safe,
Mike



3/31/2008 12:33:20 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Glock.

Much better finish.  Much better track record *been around longer, kinks are worked out*.they have a nearly identical finish

PARTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR IT without having to send it back to the manufacturer
many common parts are available via aftermarket
Shorter and more crisp reset point i strongly disagree

SF frame more managable for most.and the XD is better still
3/31/2008 1:10:39 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Glock.

Much better finish.  Much better track record *been around longer, kinks are worked out*.they have a nearly identical finish

PARTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR IT without having to send it back to the manufacturer
many common parts are available via aftermarket

Shorter and more crisp reset point i strongly disagree

SF frame more managable for most.and the XD is better still


Tenifer and Melonite is the same thing. They are both carbonitriding. I agree with TBS.

I prefer the XD45 over the Glock 21. Yes, I've tried both. The trigger pinch, 2x4 grip, and grip angle is horrible with the Glock, for me. The XDs have been around too. Not as long as Glocks; yet they are not as new as people seem to think. Glock, XD, M&P (to name a few), you can't go wrong with either.

3/31/2008 2:23:37 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
If you absolutely hate the G21 grip angle and must have a "By-GOD .45", look at a HK USP


I have a USP40F right now and I am just looking to add something different to the collection. This won't be a duty weapon. Thanks for the input.

Mike F
3/31/2008 2:28:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Both are great, but I've yet to see any Glocks sold due to lack of reliability, I can't say the same about the XD. Yes the grip angle and size of the grip on the 21 are a bitch, the SF version greatly improves on it.  I bought mine and that day it became my EDC gun.
3/31/2008 2:42:00 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=50601

G21 (SF) for me--while i'll agree the XD has a better grip angle and contour and trigger feel, the narrower grip safety, trigger reset, and lack of parts (and PITAness to change a lot of the parts, esp the ones in the grip safety area and trigger portions) keeps me from em


I tried a search, but didn't find that one. The poll doesn't help much because there is only one vote difference between the G21 and the XD. I am leaning XD now as I have never liked the grip angle of Glocks. Plus you get all of the free SWAG with the XD. The DHS deal on the GLock only gives me 3 mags instead of 2.

Mike F


yea, sorry...its one of those topics: "1/2 of a dozen in one hand, 6 in another" type things...

3/31/2008 2:45:25 PM EDT
[#23]
Pick whichever one that feels better in your hand.  They're both great pistols.


Personally, I went with the XD.  
3/31/2008 2:48:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Personally I'd go with the XD as the standard G21 grip is like holding a 2x4.  I have never handled a G21SF.  
3/31/2008 2:56:30 PM EDT
[#25]
I held the G21 before springfield XD45 came out, I wanted to like it but it truly was too large. so I went with the 23


XD arrives I fingered it and was impressed, I yet to handle a 21sf to make a choice.
3/31/2008 3:04:42 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
XD, as stated above it has a better grip angle and trigger.


+10000
3/31/2008 4:19:33 PM EDT
[#27]
While I can certainly agree that both are fantastic pistols I prefer the XD as well because I prefer the trigger and the grip of the XD and both my XDs shoot as well as any Glock I have ever shot including my own. Some parts are not as easy to get for the XD as the Glock but the "NO PARTS" for the XD is as over done as the "Glock Handgrenade".

My 5" .45 seems to shoot better than my 4" service for me by a smidge but not much but my 4" service feels better balanced to me.
3/31/2008 4:21:47 PM EDT
[#28]
I currently have an XD-45, and had prior a 1st gen G21.  Comparing those two I prefer the XD greatly.  It just fits and feels better, and it's made better as well.  I do still own one Glock, a new G29 ... simply because it's one of a kind.  If there were a compact XD in 10mm I'd buy it.

The thing Glock has going for it is all the aftermarket stuff available, if you're into modding a gun the Glock has infinite options.
3/31/2008 4:40:02 PM EDT
[#29]
I've shot a few glocks in the past ..I don't remember what models they were that's how much they impressed me...all I handled had the same problems..lousy trigger,grip angle,sights, I just was't impressed with glocks at all. The XD however is a impressive piece (I have a Sig p-220, and 2 1911's a S.A. milspec and a Kimber custom classic). The grip angle on the XD is excellant, made for the human hand.. 13rnds in a simular size package is a big plus. metal sights, trigger, and a rifled barrel so one can use cast lead bullets. The only problem I found out about my XD .45 is that it will not feed SWC's not a problem for me (I reload) so, I'll switch to a round nosed bullet style no big deal..Look to me like the parts availabilty thing is going away as several places offer XD parts. Besides S.A. covers them with a lifetime warranty, so, what's not to like?? I'd say reliabilty is on par with Glock..  Reading over at the XD forum, there is'nt alot of posts concerning broke parts, or many posts about reliabilty problems other than new shooters finding out the XD wont feed SWC's.. XD for me, this coming from another 1911 shooter.
3/31/2008 4:48:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Whatever spins your prop. I find the Glocks all awkward to hold.  I like the XDs just fine though.

YMMV  
3/31/2008 4:52:46 PM EDT
[#31]
You need to shoot both.  

I have an XD45 service and for the most part I like it.  But the slide release is rather large and batters my thumb when I shoot the pistol.  
3/31/2008 4:58:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Glock 21 ftw
3/31/2008 6:55:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Or you could get an FNP-45 which is 100% made in the US
3/31/2008 7:33:54 PM EDT
[#34]
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Quoted:
Or you could get an FNP-45 which is 100% made in the US


I thought FN was Belgian?
3/31/2008 7:58:54 PM EDT
[#35]
I love my G-21!!
Scott
3/31/2008 9:27:06 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Or you could get an FNP-45 which is 100% made in the US


I thought FN was Belgian?


But MADE in the US.  
4/1/2008 3:49:44 AM EDT
[#37]
height=8
Quoted:
height=8
Quoted:
height=8
Quoted:
Or you could get an FNP-45 which is 100% made in the US


I thought FN was Belgian?


But MADE in the US.  


Ah so like most Honda cars are anymore.
4/1/2008 3:19:29 PM EDT
[#38]
G21 was my choice.
4/1/2008 5:27:30 PM EDT
[#39]
M&P?
4/1/2008 5:53:49 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Or you could get an FNP-45 which is 100% made in the US


I thought FN was Belgian?


Belgian owned.  Guns are assembled in the US by Americans with parts manufactured in the US
4/10/2008 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Well, I went and shot both of them today, and I definitely liked the G21 (not G21SF) better than the XD45. The XD grip seemed smallish in my giant meat hooks. I think I will have to swing back over there and start the process.

Mike F
4/10/2008 8:50:59 PM EDT
[#42]
G21 by a mile for me.  
4/12/2008 2:20:24 PM EDT
[#43]
What about the 21C? There is a seller in EE that has a like new G21C for $450. Is the muzzle blast as bad as they say? After shooting the standard one the other day, the recoil was not any worse than any other 45 I have ever shot. Thanks.

Mike F
4/13/2008 3:35:31 PM EDT
[#44]
I prefer Glocks in 9mm, XD's in .45. My XD45 is almost exactly the same size as my G17. That G21 is HUGE, the SF is only a mm or two smaller in terms of trigger reach. Handle 'em both and see what you think....
4/13/2008 6:03:51 PM EDT
[#45]
My Glocks outclassed my XD's, so I got rid of 'em.

G21 if you're smart.
4/15/2008 7:01:12 PM EDT
[#46]
I have a few XD's, and a few Glocks. They are both excellent weapons. I like the XD's, but the glock conceals better (XD40 service)vs G23. The frames are almost identical, but the grip on the XD is bigger, hence harder to conceal. I've found the accuracy to be identical for both (4" bbls) Plus XD40 = 13 rounds, Glock 23 = 14 rounds. I carry the Glock.
4/16/2008 4:40:39 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:



If you absolutely hate the G21 grip angle and must have a "By-GOD .45", look at a HK USP






Or an M&P 45
4/16/2008 4:48:39 AM EDT
[#48]
WHEN i WAS GETTING READY TO BUY A NEW45ACP. i WAS TORN BTWEEN M&P, XD, AND GLOCK. mY BUD HAD A GLOCK SHOT IT THREE TIMES AND LIKED IT. nEVER SHOT THE M&P but got it anyway and love it. I recently bought a used sa xd 9mm with ported barrel, compact and I love it best. Great pistol. thinking bout getting it in a 45. xd all the way or m&p.



thanx
4/21/2008 11:57:54 AM EDT
[#49]
glock all the way!!  i like the grip of the xd so i sent the glock to robar.  
4/28/2008 11:17:41 AM EDT
[#50]
The XD, go head to head and you'll find the XD is the better of the two.
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