Posted: 2/24/2008 3:39:47 PM EDT
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Today I took my "I have always wanted a Beretta 92 in STAINLESS" out for the first time since buying it last week. And the mother fucker has issues right out of the box. It shoots really low and to the left. And its not me, cuz I also had my blued 92 out and shot it side by side, and had no such issues. Then it had (out of a box of 100 WWB) a dozen failures to feed, and about every other mag the slide failed to lock back after the last round. I had been eyeing this stainless, and really really like the two toned beretta, so my idea was, carry the two tone, and practice with the blued, so I could keep my carry gun practically new while only putting wear and tear on the training gun. But the fucker wont run... and I am really PISSED considering I now have this problem right after having a suck ass experience with Taurus customer service and then my problems with my Browning Buckmark... Maybe Beretta's customer service will be better, but it wont matter, cuz now I'm pissed at it/them. I am THIS fucking close to emptying the entire pistol section of my gun safe and tote it all down to the shop and trade it all in on a couple more GLocks and some ammo. It urks me to do that cuz some of this stuff I bought brand new, and hate to loose money buy buying new and trading in, but in all the glocks I own, and have previously owned I have NEVER EVER had the first problem with ANY of them... It's either going to be that or maybe go strictly 1911 platform. But are they as reliable? I dunno, I've not owned enough 1911s to tell (currenly only own one, previously have only owned two others, but sold one right away for a tidy profit) Fuck Taurus Fuck Browning And Fuck Beretta I'm not going to do anything while I'm hot headed, but damn this has really pissed me off. |
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Sorry to hear about your problems. The Beretta 92 is a very reliable and accurate platform, and the problems you are having is certainly an exception to the rule. I'm on my 2nd one and after thousands of rounds, both performed 100%. Regarding the FTFs.., The 92s can be magazine sensitive. What type of mags are you using? I've seen feed lips on mags that were tight to the point that the slide would not strip the round off the top and return to battery. I've also seen shit mags that would not lock the slide back after the last round. |
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I'm using factory mags. I thought of a mag issue, but used the same two mags in my blued 92 with absolutely no problem at all. My blued 92 has been 100% from get-go, but since this stainless model is only my 2nd beretta ever, so far my experience is 50% "bad gun" for me. Glocks and XDs so far have been 100% good-to-go right out of the box. 1911s have been 100% out of the box, but like I say, I've only owned two that I've shot. One was a Springfield that had a nice reliablity job done on it before I bought it (got it used), and my Taurus that I bought new. Anywho, going back to the question, I immediately eliminated a possible magazine issue as A: I used two diff mags. And B: I used the same mags in my blued version. |
| 10 bucks says you're holding down the slide stop with your thumb. I used to do it. As far as your other issues. Sorry to hear it man. My M9 "shoots to the dot" meaning the POI is on the dot, not on top of the post. With most ammo. The heavier stuff seem to hit higher. As far as the other malfs, don't know what to tell you. |
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OK...calm down. Now...were you using 10rd mags? If so, dump them. Use only factory or Meg Gar standard capacity mags.vSecond...did you lube the new gun good? I use TW25B but any good lube will suffice for a break in...Berettas do not run well past about 50rd when dry. Next, try something a bit hotter than WWB...this is a new gun with new springs. I cannot disagree with the choice of Glock because I have pretty much done the same myself, but I will say the 92's...blue or SS...usually work very well. |
I thought about him possibly riding the slide release as I've done that with my first 92 a few times. He did mention he hasn't had problems with his blued 92 so I ruled that out... OP - When you mention FTF, will the slide strip the top round from the mag? If so where exactly is the round getting hung up? Feed ramp? |
I own one beretta after swearing I would never own one again. I have a 96D that shoots great, unlike the 21 my wife bought me for our 5 wedding aniversery. I had read up in Guns and Ammo from that dickstain Jan Liboral or however you spell his name about how reliable that pistol was. Worse Jam-O-Matic I have ever owned. The moral of this story is, I know from first han expience tha tberetta will NOT take care of you. If you get a good one, great and it will serve you well. If not, you are fucked 
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OK, lemme see if I can hit all the questions here in one reply... No, Im not riding the release with my thumb, and as I say I shot my blued beretta side by side with it, and have had my blued beretta for a couple months now and have shot it often. So its not a new platform to me where my fingers may be in the way. The failure to feed is the round being stripped from the mag, but getting hung up on the ramp. The slide partially closes and then gets hung up. No, I didnt fire anything hotter than WWB. WWB has always served me well as practice ammo, and functions just fine in my blued version. Yes, the gun was clean, and properly lubed. I am using factory 15 round mags. Those also functioned 100% in my blued 92. It was not an ammo issue, as the ammo functioned just fine from the same box in my other beretta. I am of the opinion something is off with the slide to frame fit, it would explain the malfunctions as well point of impact being so drastically off from the point of aim. |
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Weird. I've been issued and have owned many Berettas and if there was one MFG that I would trust out of the box, it'd be Beretta. I recommend that you lube it with some heavier grease and shoot it more, or possibly even get some valve grinding compound, put it on the rails and rack it a while until it loosens up. |
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Feedback like that is what talked me into buying a beretta (my blued one) in the first place. I was so impressed with reliablity and accuracy I bought my second (stainless). So right now I'm at a bit of a loss as to what I truly think of Beretta reliability. I'll be headed back to the store with it on Wednesday (my next day off) |
May be a silly idea but you might want to try swapping uppers from the blue to the stainless and see if the problem persists. Also, possibly try installing the blued barrel in the stainless gun to see if there an issue with the feed ramp where you noted the rounds were getting hung up. Just an idea and can't do any harm. |
| Have you tried shoting hotter ammo in the pistol other than the WWB practice ammo? The pistol may just need to be properly broken in and the WWB ammo is anything but hot ammo. Did you disassemble the magazine prior to shooting the pistol to clean it? If so, did you reassemble the spring and follower correctly? I have owned several 92FS pistols and have yet to experience a single malfunction. Also, you may try logging in to www.berettaforum.com for more feedback. |
At the risk of repeating myself...  No, I only used WWB, and have never previously had a problem "breaking in a gun" regardless of MFG with it.No, I didnt take the mags apart. And again with the repeating myself, both mags function flawlessly in the blued version I own. Thanks for the tip on the forum, I'll check them out now. |
| Sorry to hear your problems ... you can never go wrong with GLOCK!!!! I just snapped some new shots today of my subcompacts href=http://www.rockstarlighting.com/subglocks-badger.jpg |
Heh, you sound like me most of the time - my luck with guns is legendary (why just last week I had to send a $2,400 custom rifle back to the manufacturer because the barrel came loose  ). I've oft threatened to sell my entire collection and to nothing but Glocks and AKs.Give Beretta a buzz and try to get it worked out. If you can't, delete this this thread and put it in the EE.  You're right about one thing - these stupid Austrian plastic pistols that everyone makes fun of seem to work pretty darned good! |
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Yeah, thats true. I am having a hard time picking just ONE platform to go with for CCW purposes... People like SGB make some outstanding points on 1911s and then others make good points about Glocks. I will shoot one, eventually get bored with it, and then all the sudden the other looks great... then switch... its a vicious cycle... |
Hahaha so me!!! I used to carry my 1911 until one day I was practicing, drew down, went to fire and nothing! Forgot to flick the safety off  (dead)
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| I had a 92fs for years. It had over 20,000 round down the pipe. Never one malfunction. My weapon also shot low. I think the sights were like HK, combat style. You put the front sight over the target not just below. Great gun, but could it be the newer versions have problems? Hope you get it figured out. Let us know how the CS is |
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I got my gun back from the shop today. The gun smith said he couldnt duplicate any of the problems I described. So I said "I will show them" and took it back out to the range... The fucker performed flawlessly... Even Desperado shot it, and it still performed flawlessly.... Great, leave it to this gun to make a complete liar out of me... So while the pistol does appear to be flawless at this point in time is STILL say... FUCK BERETTA for making guns that make Bear into a liar .... sheesh. :evil: Well, at least the shop didnt charge me anything to look it over and test fire it. I even said "Now wait a minute, what about the mags not dropping free like they are supposed to?" I snatched up my pistol, hit the mag release, and ... yeah... it ejected exactly like it's supposed to...  |
 Glad it is working well for you. |
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I have a few guns that I just happen to "have." My Beretta 92FS is one of them. My wife gave it to me years ago, it is a Desert Shield commerative edition so I don't shoot it a lot but it has always been a solid and totaly reliable pistol. I had a feeling yours would work itself out, IMHO, the 92 design is very very reliable, and accurate. Good Luck Bill |
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Well 100 rounds shot... fucking thing is making a liar out of me... The gun shot point of aim, and flawlessly...   I took it apart and lubed it as always before shooting a new gun for the first time. I am at a loss as to how to explain what happened and why it malfuctioned the first time out on the range with it...... every time I think I have found the reason I find another reason why that one wont work. Bad ammo... but I used it in another gun. Bad mags... but I used them in my other beretta (and since in this gun also) Shooter Error... then why did my other Beretta not respond the same way? I shot them side by side, one after the other. Gun needed breaking in... suppose its possible, maybe a fluke with the recoil spring. Gun Smith found some small error, fixed it, and then for whatever reason didnt want to tell me about it... suppose its possible I guess, but the shop I went through is very reliable and reputable... but I guess it's possible. Who knows... but for whatever it was, it seems to have been corrected, fixed or otherwise vanquished... because now the gun seems to be 100% and shoots every bit as good as my blued beretta. Another 200 flawless rounds, and I'll trust it again as a defensive weapon. |
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Keep that slide oiled. I consider my ~1996 92FS to be the most reliable handgun I own. The only time I've ever had a problem is when I let it get too dirty and didn't lube it probably and the slide was starting to bind. It will feed rounds that would make my G19 choke... way back when fast and light was the hot ticket and I was shooting 90gr +P+ out of it. Never hicupped once... the G19 couldn't even chamber one of those rounds much less shoot them reliably enough for defensive purposes. Too bad it's so big and heavy for what it is... I'm not a huge fan of DA/SA either. The gun lives in the back of my safe now, but will always hold a special place in my heart.
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