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12/21/2007 11:06:19 AM EDT
I am going to purchase one of these two guns, which one would you recommend. A hk usp tactical or a smith and wesson 627 perfomance center revolver. I already have the following hadguns, kimber tle custom 2 with wilson barrel and bushing, glock 19, s&w 637, and keltec p3at.
12/21/2007 11:39:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Smith 627 for sure. Although you are comparing 2 totally different handguns wheel guns are just to awesome....especially a Smith Performence Center.
12/21/2007 11:48:08 AM EDT
[#2]
This is not even a contest.

Get the 627.

12/21/2007 12:46:51 PM EDT
[#3]
I am leaning towards the 627 to, what is your reasoning behind it?
12/21/2007 1:15:48 PM EDT
[#4]
It's not even like you're debating between apples and oranges.  It's more like choosing between ice cream and great sex.

Go with the 627.
12/21/2007 1:19:35 PM EDT
[#5]

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I am leaning towards the 627 to, what is your reasoning behind it?


Its a better gun.  

You already have a G19 so you dont need another plastic autoloader.  Besides, the G19 is a better gun than the USP anyway.

You can pick up used USPs all day for $450.  Can you say the same for a performance center S&W?

12/21/2007 1:34:52 PM EDT
[#6]
It is a usp tactical not a plain usp. There is a 300 dollar difference. The tactical comes with a threaded barrel and a different trigger, and few other things.
12/21/2007 2:10:29 PM EDT
[#7]

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I am leaning towards the 627 to, what is your reasoning behind it?


Its a better gun.  

You already have a G19 so you dont need another plastic autoloader.  Besides, the G19 is a better gun than the USP anyway.

You can pick up used USPs all day for $450.  Can you say the same for a performance center S&W?



Would you care to share how you came to any of your conclusions?  The proper way to state your opinion that the G19 or the 627 are better guns would be to preface said statement with "IN MY OPINION".  You have no factual basis for your claims that either the G19 or 675 are better then any other guns on the market.

Now to address the OP.  It all depends on why you're purchasing this new firearm.  Either one will serve you well.
12/21/2007 10:14:49 PM EDT
[#8]
Definitely apples and oranges comparison.  Since it is only between these two handguns the OP is asking to choose from, I personally would chose the S & W because I like how this S & W 627 wheel gun looks, I have fun with my own .357 magnum revolver (686 Plus), and HK pistols don't really appeal to me.  Now if we are talking Sig Sauer....  
12/21/2007 11:59:00 PM EDT
[#9]

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It's not even like you're debating between apples and oranges.  It's more like choosing between ice cream and great sex.



+1

it also depends, what are your uses for each/either?
12/22/2007 11:38:43 AM EDT
[#10]

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Besides, the G19 is a better gun than the USP anyway.







12/22/2007 11:44:12 AM EDT
[#11]

You have no factual basis for your claims that either the G19 or 675 are better then any other guns on the market.



Well other than sales of said guns  and you'd be right.
12/23/2007 1:24:33 PM EDT
[#12]
i would go with the H&k, just because i have always wanted one, and i would wait on the wheel gun.
12/25/2007 2:34:07 PM EDT
[#13]

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You have no factual basis for your claims that either the G19 or 675 are better then any other guns on the market.



Well other than sales of said guns  and you'd be right.




So based on sales, the VW Beetle is THE best car ever made...............      
12/26/2007 7:26:35 PM EDT
[#14]

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You have no factual basis for your claims that either the G19 or 675 are better then any other guns on the market.



Well other than sales of said guns  and you'd be right.




So based on sales, the VW Beetle is THE best car ever made...............      


Well how many VW Beattles do they sell a year ? Not that many huh .
Do they have over 60 percent of the police market ? Glock does.
In other words , yes based on sales of the gun I'd hgave to say it is a better gun.
12/26/2007 7:30:06 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

You have no factual basis for your claims that either the G19 or 675 are better then any other guns on the market.



Well other than sales of said guns  and you'd be right.




So based on sales, the VW Beetle is THE best car ever made...............      


Well how many VW Beattles do they sell a year ? Not that many huh .
Do they have over 60 percent of the police market ? Glock does.
In other words , yes based on sales of the gun I'd hgave to say it is a better gun.


Hand Grenades are in high demand, i guess.
12/27/2007 5:31:27 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
It is a usp tactical not a plain usp. There is a 300 dollar difference. The tactical comes with a threaded barrel and a different trigger, and few other things.


Unless you plan on suppressing it I see no need for a threaded barrel.I've owned a couple HK's and have yet to be blown away by their performance.I'd put a Glock up to a HK any day.

The wheelgun sounds like fun.
12/27/2007 5:08:31 PM EDT
[#17]

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Well how many VW Beattles do they sell a year ? Not that many huh.


World wide? Quite a few. In the lifetime of car making & selling? Probably THE most of all time, even in the US.



Do they have over 60 percent of the police market ? Glock does.


Last *I* checked, VW wasn't in the LE gun sales bidness...............      



In other words , yes based on sales of the gun I'd hgave to say it is a better gun.


A) I've owned Glocks in the past.    

B) Somehow, other mfgrs have managed to not only survive but actually thrive. Wonder why that is, homes????    

C) Let's see what Glock's LE market % is after a few years of the XD's & new H&K's being out there, eh? Not to mention, many departments buy Glocks because they're simple to operate, i.e. their owners don't have to think too much.

D) If Glocks are the end-all, be-all, wonder why the US military isn't buying them by the railroad car load???????    
12/27/2007 6:43:52 PM EDT
[#18]

BobCole

Do they have over 60 percent of the police market ? Glock does.



Last *I* checked, VW wasn't in the LE gun sales bidness...............



Right so why bring up such an apples to oranges comparison.

I'm done here.