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10/4/2007 10:08:59 AM EDT
Whats the accuracy difference between the Glock 17 and 19?  I know the barrel difference is only .47 inches and the sight radius is probably similiar but for those who currently own both, what do you say?  25 meter shot groups?
10/4/2007 10:20:29 AM EDT
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Whats the accuracy difference between the Glock 17 and 19?  I know the barrel difference is only .47 inches and the sight radius is probably similiar but for those who currently own both, what do you say?  25 meter shot groups?


I have a G17 and have had a G19. For me, I like the longer barrel of the 17. But as far as accuracy they were about the same for me. But, I have "heard" that the shorter barrel is stiffer making it more accurate. Choose the one that fits your hand better and buy lots of ammo. That'll make you accurate.
10/4/2007 10:26:26 AM EDT
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There is most likely little to no accuracy difference between the pistols UNTIL you add the human.  

With the longer sight radius the model 17 MIGHT appear to be more accurate.  With a shorter sight radius, a .002 error in sight alignment will be more pronounced at longer distances down range on the shorter barrel.  

Basically, the shorter the sight radius, the more pronounced the error will be on paper down range at distances.  The longer sight radius weapons are more forgiving on sight alignment errors.  So, the same .002 error in alignment on the G19 will appear to indicate it is not as accurate as a G34 with the longer sight radius.  Even though mechanically, the pistol barrels would have the same accuracy potential.  (of course the longer barrel would provide a higher velocity would would effect the trajectory at longer distances.)

If the human does their part and does not make any sight alignment errors or any trigger operation errors... there is little difference mechanically.  However, the longer sight radius will give the shooter the advantage, given the exact same error in sight alignment on the shorter sight radius.

There is no barrel flex so the "stiffer" barrel theory of the shorter is unfounded.
10/4/2007 10:33:26 AM EDT
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There is most likely little to no accuracy difference between the pistols UNTIL you add the human.



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If you want a Glock with a longer sight radius, look at the '34 or the '17L.
10/4/2007 10:40:08 AM EDT
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Whats the accuracy difference between the Glock 17 and 19?  I know the barrel difference is only .47 inches and the sight radius is probably similiar but for those who currently own both, what do you say?  25 meter shot groups?



Sight picture trigger control

Front sight sharp and clear, annnnnnnnd squeeze.
10/4/2007 10:50:20 AM EDT
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There is most likely little to no accuracy difference between the pistols UNTIL you add the human.  


I could not agree more.
10/4/2007 11:33:56 AM EDT
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There is most likely little to no accuracy difference between the pistols UNTIL you add the human.  


I could not agree more.


+1
10/4/2007 1:27:53 PM EDT
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Whats the accuracy difference between the Glock 17 and 19?  I know the barrel difference is only .47 inches and the sight radius is probably similiar but for those who currently own both, what do you say?  25 meter shot groups?


I have a G17 and have had a G19. For me, I like the longer barrel of the 17. But as far as accuracy they were about the same for me. But, I have "heard" that the shorter barrel is stiffer making it more accurate. Choose the one that fits your hand better and buy lots of ammo. That'll make you accurate.


The barrels are all the same stiffness.  It's the recoil spring that is stiffer.  Especially on the G26.  
10/4/2007 1:28:39 PM EDT
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10/4/2007 3:32:20 PM EDT
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I've noticed that my G19 is more accurate than my 17.  It's not a huge amount, but enough to be noticeable.  No idea why.
10/4/2007 3:42:49 PM EDT
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I took a Larry Vickers handgun course a while back. One of the things we did was a walkback. Each person had a chance to hit a steel silhouette. If you missed you were out. Each round moved back a few yards, until there was only one person left. Vickers was hitting steel at over 100 yards with a G19. We ended up @ about 120 yards. I made hits that far with a G35. The guys shooting .45s would shoot, hang their heads, thinking they missed then....ding. The point is, handguns are much more accurate than the average shooter thinks. If you can ding steel at over 100 yards with a G19, practical accuracy at 25 yards is no problem.
10/4/2007 3:55:41 PM EDT
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Never mind...

I don't know what I was thinking when I hit submit!
10/4/2007 4:14:48 PM EDT
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I've noticed that my G19 is more accurate than my 17.  It's not a huge amount, but enough to be noticeable.  No idea why.


Probably the way it fits in your hand.

Some GLOCK owners have been raving about how the compact sized GLOCK just meld into their hands.  
10/4/2007 5:03:01 PM EDT
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I've noticed that my G19 is more accurate than my 17.  It's not a huge amount, but enough to be noticeable.  No idea why.


Before I retired, I was a firearms instructor and I ran a firing range for the government (among other cool things).  What I observed about the "for some reason I shoot better with my shorter barrel pistol/revolver" people.  The shooter realized that it can be more difficult to shoot the smaller pistol/revolvers, and they concentrated more on the fundamentals on the smaller barrel handgun they shot, and actually shot better.  It had nothing to do with the handgun... it had to do with the effort they put out on the "harder to shoot" little handguns.

At our national academy back when we used revolvers more, there would be a few in the classes that had 2 1/2 inch barrel revolvers when the remainder of the class had 4 inch revolvers.  Often they would say it was unfair they had to shoot to the same qualification expectations as the guys with 4 inch barrels.  We would listen to them, agree, and then tell them to step an inch and a half closer to the target... to make things fair.  


Could be.  Or it could be familiarity with the handgun -- I've owned the G19 much longer and shot the G19 considerably more.  But I tend to think that it has to do with the gun itself.  Maybe the barrel is a bit more accurate in the G19 with the rounds I use or maybe the lockup just a bit better.
10/4/2007 5:27:41 PM EDT
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Could be.  Or it could be familiarity with the handgun -- I've owned the G19 much longer and shot the G19 considerably more.  But I tend to think that it has to do with the gun itself.  Maybe the barrel is a bit more accurate in the G19 with the rounds I use or maybe the lockup just a bit better.


I bet you are right on this one.  I bet it's the barrel/ammo combination, an exceptional gun.