Posted: 8/27/2007 7:45:48 AM EDT
| i own a wilson 1911 which is perfect for my small hands but was thinking about maybe purchasing either a sig 220 or hk 45 usp compact(full size is too big for my hands). any opinions on what is the better hd/range gun for small hands, lower recoil , ergonomics and quality manufacturing for the money. i won't be able to afford this for a little while so i can research for a bit. |
Hands down the new .45 Smith and Wesson M&P. Make sure its an M&P - the other polymer offerings from S&W are crap. But the M&P is a good gun. |
oh yea, sorry about that  the Sig P220 is less than the weight of a std 1911 (several oz less i believe, depending on either the compact/carry/combat models)--but the std P220 it full sized, full bulk the triggers are pretty good, better than stock USP triggers imo the HK USPc .45acp would be my choice of the 2 for a carry gun--lighter, similar capacity, more compact, but more recoil muzzle flip (vs the P220), but still easy to control the std variant 1 triggers (DA/SA, decocker) are long, heavy DA, and creepy parts wise, its a tad easier to get sig parts; mags, both are costly, but again, its a little easier to get Sig mags, esp OEMs which fits your hand better? |
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newyork, The newest iteration of P220 frames, with the short trigger option, have about the same trigger reach as a USP Compact with the LEM trigger. WITHOUT the short trigger, you will probably have difficulty getting a good grip index. If you intend to carry the pistol, its a no-brainer choice; the USPc is quite a bit smaller, handier, and lighter than a P220. If all you want is another pistol to shoot, then spend some time comparing the two. I have extensive experience with both, and still have the USPc. I sold the Sig. Make of that what you will...  . |
b/c the 45c that my buddy owns and i tried seemed to flip more and it did push more into the web of my hand of course, they were both diff loads (shot on diff occasions), of which i dont know what they were, but i assumed they were std 230gr still very controllable; heck, imo, my USP45f recoiled the most of any .45acp i've ever shot (push, bite, and flip)...some say its b/c my hand isnt big enough for it, others say its b/c the recoil spring is worn, etc |
Could be the high bore axis as well, although I haven't measured anytime before. |
maybe, but the diff isnt that much... i dont know, maybe poly guns just dont like my hand as much
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If you use a standard or compact size 1911 series .45 and add the thinner grips it makes a big difference in the way they feel. You would need to add thinner grip screw bushings for them to fit properly but it doeas make a huge difference to smaller hands. Colt's New Agent has them as factory original grips on them if you can find one in a loal gunshop to try our next to a set of standard width grips. Also Kahr has a very small P45 that is quite a bit thinner than other .45's you see. It would be the smallest and thinnest of any the .45's I could think of. |
), so see if you can shoot it first.
| If a 1911 fits your small hands, anything else is going to be larger. The grip diameter is the same on the USC full size and compact, so I don't understand why the compact fits you better unless it's a grip length issue. I haven't handeled the .45 Kahr so I can't comment on that one. I have fired the Sig 220 and the H&K USP and the H&K had more muzzle flip because if it's higher bore axis. The Sig feels more 1911ish, although the grips are a bit thicker all around. Where in MY are you? If you can get to Wolf indoor range in Bristol CT, they have rental's you can shoot. No H&K, but they have the Sig 220, and a Kahr in .40. |