[ARCHIVED THREAD] - .40 recommendations................. (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/30/2007 6:25:02 AM EDT
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need some help on finding a good .40 handgun for home defense/target shooting. What do you guys recommend? Have thought about springfield XD, and beretta 90-2 or 96. thoughts? |
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Go to www.CDNNinvestments.com and download their catalog. They have some good deals on Steyr 40s. You can't go wrong with any of the brand names like H&K, Glock, Steyr, CZ, S&W.... Go by your local gun store and see which one fits your hand and which safety system you like. |
Brilliant and completely unbiased analysis Cleatus! |
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I have an FN FNP-40 that is nice - especially for the price I paid. It's essentially the same gun as the Browning Pro-40. It has digested everything I have run through it without a hiccup. The Springfield XD-40 is a very nice gun as well. In my personal opinion, it takes everything I do like about a Glock, fixes everything I don't like about a Glock, and puts it all in one package. If you are interested in a non-polymer gun, you might look for a Browning (or FN) Hi-Power in .40 too. CDNN has, or had, brand new ones for $439 I believe. |
What a tool  Glock, S&W MP and Sig P226/9 would be great choices. Glock KB's are highly over played on these boards. All guns can KB gwith bad ammo, double charged reloads etc. I just bought a new MP9 and it's a great polymer handgun, might replace all my Glocks. Sigs are Sigs, can't go wrong there. I sold all mine but they were nice pistols, just didn't do anything for me that a cheaper Glock wouldn't. I have owned many HK's over the years and I keep selling them. Good, reliable handguns but for me the ergo's suck. They are uncomfotable to hold and shoot for me with a hign thumbs hold. I have finally learned and won't buy another one. I have a lot of rounds though a G23 and it's been great (and my daily carry piece). |
Allow me to add to the list of "built for .40"... HK USP .40 Steyr M40 If you pick from our combined list of 4 choices...you'll get a gun designed for .40, unlike the other brands that are scaled up existing 9mm designs. You can guess which guns have the least amout of .40 cal related issues... |
says OPINION. says YMMV. I have a diploma from Phuque U. if you want credentials. |
Was the ammo factory or reloaded? It doesn't matter if you are keeping the gun or not. Most people document things like this so they have solid evidence to back up their claim. Considering the fact that I have heard of practically zero claims of a .40 Glock KBing with factory ammo, the BS flag is raised by a mandatory amount of skepticism that I have, particularly considering this is the internet. As far as suggestions: XD, Glock, M&P, SIG, 'insert major reputable brand here'. If you get a .40, do NOT use reloaded ammo unless you are the reloader and know EXACTLY what you are doing and even then, I highly suggest against it. Reloaded .40 as a whole seems to like to make guns vaporize. |
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Factory Federal 180s. And how the hell do you document a magazine being blown out of a pistol? I am amazed how often people can post, "I was there, I saw it," and then the flood of naysayers who immediately call "bullshit." Despite the fact that they were NOT there! Again, my original post stands. My opinion - this means, you MAY have another opinion. My experience - you may have HAD a different experience. YMMV - you may YET have a different experience. |
If the only thing that happened was the mag dropped out of the gun you might consider that the mag release was hit  Most KB's blow the barrel, etc. Yours sounds like it fired fine. I don't think anyone is calling "bullshit" on you but one case is not a reason to bad mouth all Glocks. 99% of Glock (or any other gun) KB's are reload related. If yours was a real KB with factory ammo than there was an issue with the ammo. There is no issue with the 40S&W Glock, if there was they would be blowing up left and right. The G22/23's are a couple of the most popular handguns today and if they were as bad as we are lead to believe we would hear about multiple KB's every day. I have to believe we hear about the same KB over and over. No handgun barrels are fully supported, they are all prone to bad ammo....period.
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I didn't badmouth all Glocks. I realize there are hardcore Glock fans out there that are unswayable. Its a fine weapon....in 9 and 45....I own them. I simply don't trust the 40s. I actually don't trust any brand 40cal weapon with 180gr bullets. I just think its a NO-NO -- 165gr max. But of the two weapons I've handled the most in 40 caliber - Glock and HK - the HK did not malfunction in the manner described. And no it was not shooter error - system check before the shot in question and the ergonomics of the Glock grip angle make it nearly impossible for me (my hand, anyway) to trip the mag release. As for other 40 cal weapons, I've always found it counterintuitive to take the safety off by flipping it upward and moving my thumb off the grip....like Berretta, Taurus, CZ, Ruger, S&W. I prefer the downward motion of 1911 and HK thumb safeties. Obviously that is a moot point with Glock. |
 www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=106&category=Pistol Just picked this up. Very pleased with it . Survival Tools video 24/7 Pro at Steel Challege In comparson to Glock, Taurus has a full lenght slide rail. The chamber fully supports the cartridge more full than the Glock. Natural grip angle. Breaks down and comes apart simple and quick for cleaning. I should get a sales comission for this ad |
Nice pic! Heres my daily carry. 
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Just out of curiosity, may I ask why? I've been shooting 180s out of my USP with good results, but if there is a good reason not to, I'll reconsider using them. |
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Oh, and to the original poster: I have experience with the XD40, the USP40c, and the CZ40B. In my opinion, all are high-quality, reliable handguns. I own an XD40 and a USP40c and plan to get a CZ40P soon. Any of them should serve you well for your intended purposes. |
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I choose the SIG P229 most accurate back when I bought it in 95/96 I took the Berretta 40 back it was nice but I didnt care for the groups other than that its fine and a SLICKest slide I have ever felt The Sig P229 that I have is JUST as accurate as my Colt COMBAT ELITE 1911 |
+1 The Taurus manual that comes with the PT 24/7 Pro actual list the 180 gr. as the prefered size to use. I have used about 200 165's with good results and just ran a box of White box 180's and they ran great. 1 1/2" at 7 yards. I should be able to get a lot better with practice and getting use to the Henie sights. I have a friend that runs 200 grains with no problems. Can't wait to do some reloading and work out a good load. (Maybe old technology guns that you are use to, shouldn't be run with 180's) |
There is NO reason not to run 180gr through a 40cal. |
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To answer the OP's post - Glock 35 Springfield XD.40 5" Barrel He said for home defense and target shooting, why sacrifice barrel length in these applications? Get the Glock 35 - it is a better bullet hose than any gun listed so far. 15 rounds, good trigger, long sight radius, balances well - what's not to like? And lets not talk that ridiculous 1-in-a-million KB crap that happens to every other gun out there as well. |
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.40 recommendations................. If I wanted to burn through some cash to help defeat the zombies and Trogs with a 40SW pistol it would be anyone of these pistols: SIG P229 or SIGPRO P2340 or P226 40SW, Beretta Cougar 8040G, Glock 23 or 22, or if one likes to always wipe down with oil a blued FN Belgium built High Power in 40SW. |
| My Sig P229 was the best all around shooter. It had a real natural "pointablity" to it. It was dead nuts reliable and very accurate right out of the box. I wish I hadn't sold it now, but really do like it's replacement for CCW my Kahr PM40. Not so amuch fun to shoot but still very accurate and MUCH easier to conceal. |
I just bought an XD 45 and love it! 14 rounds of .45 ACP goodness! I fired the obligatory 250 rounds, to break it in, and had NOT ONE PROBLEM! I put a few old handloaded Keith semi-wadcutters through it, it chambered them OK but the bullets were loaded for target pistol (low energy load) and it wouldn't cycle them after the first round. I LOVE MY XD! |
You can add the M&P to that list as well :) |
Springfield Armory XD www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=75 |
