Posted: 1/15/2007 6:01:48 PM EDT
| Does anyone know anything about these guns?? I have an oportunity to pick one up at what seems like a good price. It's a .45 ACP. Still waiting to find out the exact model. Thanks for any help you can give. HAve a great night. |
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is it like this I missed out on one like it. $309, still kicking myself in the ass. The cool thing is that you can buy a new top end and have a different caliber, even a 10mm. I think the older ones have the saftey on the slide and personly dont care for that. Their reportedly very good guns like the CZ's. xxxx |
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My old man's Witness doesn't run for crap (38 super), but that might be related to him having the early-style folllowers in his mags. Even so, he is in the miniority, based on conversations I've had with satisfied Witness owners. Its reputation is sufficently good that I wouldn't be too adverse to buying one, given its price point. |
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DO NOT shoot high pressure ammo.. Ask me and Ill tell you how a 350.00 10mm Witness turned into a 650.00 10mm Witness. Hint: Overnight shipping which you have to pay BOTH ways with EAA to fix a cracked slide twice and a broken frame rail twice. Shoot factory ammo, dont beat it up, and it will be fine. |
I looked at onr of those. Yeah, they're a brick, weight-wise. Other than that I liked it. |
| They are great pistols. I had a .45 and it could handle any off the shelf .45 ammo including +P. I currently have a 10mm that I put a 22lb recoil spring in and have shot the hot Double Tap ammo no probs. The .45 Witness and 10MM Witness pistols are some of the best kept secrets out there in my opinion. |
Either you are incredibly lucky, you havent broken yours yet, its broken and you havent noticed, or I bought a piece of shit.. Im gonna go out on a limb and say all of the above |
Actualy quite a few people have shot the hot 10mms with no problem after a stiffer spring. I have never heard of a .45 breaking but that certainly does not mean it did. Did you up the spring in yours to 22lb or leave factory when you shot hot loads in the 10mm? |
Sprung to 22lb. before it failed. Witness is WAY undersprung from the factory |
Or, if you are going to shoot full house loads, ditch the weak "underloaded" 14# spring for the correct 22# spring and go nuts with "real" 10mm loads. Mine works great. No signs of stress or cracking at all. |
I agree. Mine might even get an extra power hammer spring since I shoot is SA any way. Some guys have loaded to hot and did damage and some had defects maybe but most brands of pistols do have some that do. It stinks that EAA has not had better service for customers or the pistols would be a lot more popular. I love my 10mm. It shoots on par with any thing I have. |
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I just wanted to point out the probability distribution curve is going to have a few people who through no fault of their own experience an inordinate amount of trouble with the product. That's a expected distribution of failures. i learned this from a owner of a khukuri making company. So, no matter how hard to relate to general experience of the Witness, one guy gets all that trouble and it sure could seem like the weapon in general was crap. It is not he case. At least, with all the reading I've done over the years, the EAA Witness has a very stout rep. What I want to know is, how much should I expect to pay for a all steel 10mm new? munk |
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You guys shooting the 10mm witnesses need to be using a recoil buffer if you are shooting full power loads. Period. 1911 style buffers drop right in. USE THEM. Also, the 22lb recoil spring is not helping anything. A heavy hammer spring will help slow down the slide velocity a bit, but the recoil spring is only hammering the hell out of your slide lock pin. USE A BUFFER. |
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These drop right in onto the recoil spring guide rod. Seriously, especially on the all steel pistols, not using one is just asking for frame or slide cracks. www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=740502 Again, that 22lb recoil spring IS NOT HELPING, it is only going to kill your slide lock pin earlier. I cannot emphasize this enough. I shoot a lot of very hot 10mm out of my witness and I use a 16lb recoil spring, 22lb hammer spring, and a polyurethane buffer. An 18lb recoil spring works fine too, but anything over that is detrimental, trust me, I have done a lot of experimenting with this. |
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I found my .45 Witness didn't much care for Hornady XTP JHP's. They'd tend to result in a three point jam coming off the top of a full mag. I also experienced this to a lesser extent with truncated cone bullets. Other than that, no problems other than the trigger that took three grown men to actuate in DA mode. |