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11/20/2006 8:44:40 PM EDT
I've heard from a few people with first-hand experience that this is a bad-assed round, but I don't really know much about it. I know Glock makes a 10mm, what other options are out  there? Your thoughts on the round and platforms for it are welcome.

Thanks!!!
11/20/2006 9:41:01 PM EDT
[#1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10mm


The 10mm would be my hands-down favorite, no question... IF, and this is a big if... it wasn't just about the most expensive goddamn pistol ammo in the universe.  $22 for a box of federal plinking shit is common.

That being said, it's still pretty cool.

http://www.doubletapammo.com

That's where all the best ammo for it is available.  The shit they put in stores is... well, shit.  The Winchester Silvertips are alright, because they're closer to true 10mm power than they are .40s&w, unlike most other store-bought hollowpoints.

There are a few 10mm platforms, but the G20/G29 are the best.  The EA Witnesses are also okay, from what I heard, if you get a new spring for the full-power loads.

The 10mm 1911s tend to have more problems than not.  It's pretty brutal on guns... the Glock 20 is pretty much the standard to which other 10mms are compared, as it's... well, the best/longest lasting.
11/20/2006 9:46:32 PM EDT
[#2]
What criteria determines a round's bad-assness?


Personally, I think its overpriced, too hard to find, the Glock 20 is the only real option out there for a gun that wont get beat to death by it in short order, and its over-powered in its original loadings compared to other rounds when it comes to defensive use.

But thats just my opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it.
11/20/2006 10:08:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys, this is the kind of pro/con I was looking for. I don't really respect Lumpy196's opinion on anything gun-related, but it was free.
11/20/2006 10:11:13 PM EDT
[#4]
In 10mm there's Glock and a bunch of others tied for "won't last very long firing full power 10mm rounds".

11/20/2006 10:55:06 PM EDT
[#5]
I used to have a S&W 1006 in 10MM. It was ver yaccurate and never had a FTF or FTE. I put maybe over 300 rounds in it before I had to sell it. I wouldn't have any trouble using one again and It's one of my must haves again.
11/20/2006 11:24:38 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I used to have a S&W 1006 in 10MM. It was ver yaccurate and never had a FTF or FTE. I put maybe over 300 rounds in it before I had to sell it. I wouldn't have any trouble using one again and It's one of my must haves again.


300 rounds is barely past "test fired". Try 1,000................
11/20/2006 11:41:05 PM EDT
[#7]
I love the 10mm round. I've had a 1006, 1086, 1066, Glock 29, Glock 20, S&W 610 4" and EAA Witness. The Glocks jammed alot and I never did get them working right. All the Smiths and EAA were totally reliable and great shooting guns. I've always wanted someone to bring out a 10mm rifle like the Keltec Sub 2000 size but I guess I'll just keep wishing.
11/20/2006 11:49:47 PM EDT
[#8]

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I love the 10mm round. I've had a 1006, 1086, 1066, Glock 29, Glock 20, S&W 610 4" and EAA Witness. The Glocks jammed alot and I never did get them working right. All the Smiths and EAA were totally reliable and great shooting guns. I've always wanted someone to bring out a 10mm rifle like the Keltec Sub 2000 size but I guess I'll just keep wishing.


I remember reading about MP-10s in a Clancy book
11/20/2006 11:54:19 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I love the 10mm round. I've had a 1006, 1086, 1066, Glock 29, Glock 20, S&W 610 4" and EAA Witness. The Glocks jammed alot and I never did get them working right. All the Smiths and EAA were totally reliable and great shooting guns. I've always wanted someone to bring out a 10mm rifle like the Keltec Sub 2000 size but I guess I'll just keep wishing.


I remember reading about MP-10s in a Clancy book


But seriously, the 10mm sounds like it'd be a great carbine round.
11/21/2006 12:14:03 AM EDT
[#10]

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Quoted:

Quoted:
I love the 10mm round. I've had a 1006, 1086, 1066, Glock 29, Glock 20, S&W 610 4" and EAA Witness. The Glocks jammed alot and I never did get them working right. All the Smiths and EAA were totally reliable and great shooting guns. I've always wanted someone to bring out a 10mm rifle like the Keltec Sub 2000 size but I guess I'll just keep wishing.


I remember reading about MP-10s in a Clancy book


But seriously, the 10mm sounds like it'd be a great carbine round.


Sounds like hell, it was. FBI used MP5/10s when they went to the S&W 1076 sidearm, and Auto-Ordnance even made some 1927s ("Tommy Guns") in 10mm. One of the H&K cloners here in the states has an MP5/10 out right now.

ETA: found the Vector clones from Atlantic.
11/21/2006 5:39:56 AM EDT
[#11]
I love my Delta Elite, 10mm is just a fun ass round to fire. Expensive as a Vivid slut, though.
11/21/2006 8:56:11 AM EDT
[#12]
10mm

a good cartrige imo, one of my favorites all around, except for the ammo prices and availability
11/21/2006 11:14:03 AM EDT
[#13]
I've got a Colt Delta Elite and a G20 Glock. Both are great shooters and I roll my own handgun ammo so the price is not a big factor to me.
Fire a few mags through the Delta and then my 45 acp feels like a 22.

Elvis
11/21/2006 11:36:10 AM EDT
[#14]
Is a good 10mm load comparable to a .357?

Wondering how it'd do for hunting.
11/21/2006 11:50:21 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Is a good 10mm load comparable to a .357?

Wondering how it'd do for hunting.
The hottest 10mm load is better than the hottest .357
Buffalo Bore Ammunition 10mm Auto 180 Grain Speer Gold Dot Jacketed Hollow Point Muzzle Velocity: 1,350 fps
Buffalo Bore Ammunition 357 Magnum 170 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Muzzle Velocity: 1,400 fps

Quoted:
ETA: found the Vector clones from Atlantic.
Vector MP510MM    $1450.00
11/21/2006 7:13:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Well damn, might have to pick up a G20. I saw a thread in GD talking about the 10mm and saw a G20L that is right up my alley. Seems like it might be hard to find, though.
11/21/2006 9:38:59 PM EDT
[#17]
One of the funnest calibers there is.
11/21/2006 10:59:00 PM EDT
[#18]

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One of the funnest calibers there is.


Why would it be funny?
11/22/2006 5:30:23 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Well damn, might have to pick up a G20. I saw a thread in GD talking about the 10mm and saw a G20L that is right up my alley. Seems like it might be hard to find, though.


G20L?

That would be bitchin.
11/22/2006 8:52:03 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
One of the funnest calibers there is.


Why would it be funny?


Fun... As in having a good time.. As in this is a blast to shoot.
11/22/2006 8:05:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Its a good round for hunting use.

Its overpowered for defensive use.

The .40 S&W works just as good against the average person.
11/23/2006 9:14:32 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Its a good round for hunting use.

Its overpowered for defensive use.

The .40 S&W works just as good against the average person.


The average american is bigger then the average person
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