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9/14/2006 2:26:00 PM EDT
 Does anyone know approx. high much higher you should hold on a target for the 9mm for 50 yards?  Specifics, Beretta 92D Cent. with 4.7 inch barrel and Fed. American Eagle 124fmj.  I will be doing some competion shooting next week and one stage will be 50 yards.  I know it shouldn't be much at all.  Thanks for any input
9/14/2006 3:42:10 PM EDT
[#1]

You'll only see about 1 inch drop from your 25 yard POI to 50 yard POI with the 9mm/124
9/14/2006 3:53:18 PM EDT
[#2]
topton?
9/14/2006 4:04:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Not to be a smartass....Ok I know I am a smartass...so anyways If you are indeed attending a pistol competition dont you think you should be out practicing with your Beretta 92D 4.7 using AE 124fmj's at 50 yds?
9/14/2006 4:22:34 PM EDT
[#4]
Mr S.A, It is my duty weapon so I am very familar with it! We just never shoot past 25 yards because we are not supposed to!  I have made the case that we should but that is like banging my head on a brick wall, not very productive and hurts after awhile!
9/14/2006 4:44:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Federal says:

9mm 115gr FMJ POA @ 25 yards; -0.9 @ 50 yards.

9mm 124gr FMJ same thing.
9/14/2006 5:08:25 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks Bob!  Mr. S.A was that so difficult?
9/15/2006 11:09:35 AM EDT
[#7]

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Thanks Bob!  Mr. S.A was that so difficult?




Welcome to the world of arfcom, sir!!!!!    
9/15/2006 5:46:06 PM EDT
[#8]
I shoot at 50 yards all the time.  Truthfully, I doubt that you'll even notice the difference -- it's not really something that I've found that I need to compensate for.  100 yards does require a bit of holdover on the 9mm, and a bit more so on the .45, but 50 yards not really.  Have fun!!
9/15/2006 6:09:28 PM EDT
[#9]
I shoot 50yds with 9mm all the time and have found the above observations to be correct. Have fun!
9/16/2006 6:55:58 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I shoot at 50 yards all the time.  Truthfully, I doubt that you'll even notice the difference -- it's not really something that I've found that I need to compensate for.  100 yards does require a bit of holdover on the 9mm, and a bit more so on the .45, but 50 yards not really.  Have fun!!


I plink at 100 at bottles on one of the ranges at my range.  I don't really hold over too much.  Last week I hit a gatorade bottle.  Not the big huge one.  The little.  Of course it took me the whole mag.  Even with the .45 I don't think you need to hold too much over.  Although my group size is bigger, therefore it's harder to figure out exactly what they're doing.  But nevertheless.

FWIW,  I shot this target at 200 yards with my M9.  I have witnesses.  I was prone and rested on a sandbag.  But at this yardage it's dropping like  a foot, or a little less.  Most of my rounds landed just under my target, but this one was pretty nice.  he he h eh eh e
9/16/2006 11:02:22 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I shoot at 50 yards all the time.  Truthfully, I doubt that you'll even notice the difference -- it's not really something that I've found that I need to compensate for.  100 yards does require a bit of holdover on the 9mm, and a bit more so on the .45, but 50 yards not really.  Have fun!!


I plink at 100 at bottles on one of the ranges at my range.  I don't really hold over too much.  Last week I hit a gatorade bottle.  Not the big huge one.  The little.  Of course it took me the whole mag.  Even with the .45 I don't think you need to hold too much over.  Although my group size is bigger, therefore it's harder to figure out exactly what they're doing.  But nevertheless.

FWIW,  I shot this target at 200 yards with my M9.  I have witnesses.  I was prone and rested on a sandbag.  But at this yardage it's dropping like  a foot, or a little less.  Most of my rounds landed just under my target, but this one was pretty nice.  he he h eh eh e
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Nice.  Yes, it doesn't require THAT much holdover at 100 yards, as you noted, but as you also noted it require a little bit.  It sounds like our observations are the same.  I'm not sure if you were disagreeing or agreeing with me .  But anyway, I agree -- some but not a whole lot.
9/16/2006 11:07:43 AM EDT
[#12]
Taking pistols out a long way and just F'ing around with them is fun. Some of my friends and I took a 1.5ftx1.5ft plate out to 300yds to shoot with pistols. I could ding it pretty regularly with a GP100 6' .357 and a little less often with a Glock 22. Although it took like 4 or 5 mage one of us finally hit it with the Ruger MkII. There is a lot of hold over with a 6' .22 at 300yds!
9/16/2006 2:16:27 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I shoot at 50 yards all the time.  Truthfully, I doubt that you'll even notice the difference -- it's not really something that I've found that I need to compensate for.  100 yards does require a bit of holdover on the 9mm, and a bit more so on the .45, but 50 yards not really.  Have fun!!


I plink at 100 at bottles on one of the ranges at my range.  I don't really hold over too much.  Last week I hit a gatorade bottle.  Not the big huge one.  The little.  Of course it took me the whole mag.  Even with the .45 I don't think you need to hold too much over.  Although my group size is bigger, therefore it's harder to figure out exactly what they're doing.  But nevertheless.

FWIW,  I shot this target at 200 yards with my M9.  I have witnesses.  I was prone and rested on a sandbag.  But at this yardage it's dropping like  a foot, or a little less.  Most of my rounds landed just under my target, but this one was pretty nice.  he he h eh eh e
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Nice.  Yes, it doesn't require THAT much holdover at 100 yards, as you noted, but as you also noted it require a little bit.  It sounds like our observations are the same.  I'm not sure if you were disagreeing or agreeing with me .  But anyway, I agree -- some but not a whole lot.


Sorry, I wasn't really disagreeing with you.  I just don't have a figure as to how much.  My M9 shoots POI to the dot with WWB115 grainers.  So I'm basically covering up a target as small as soda can at 100.  So I can't really tell if it's dropping or what the heck.  But I can see my bullets all hitting right around the place I'm aiming.  Some high, some low. A little left, a little right.  You know what I'm saying?

When I use 124 or 147's I can use the top of the post.
9/18/2006 12:33:59 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks for all the info.  I'll let you know how we do
9/19/2006 8:30:57 AM EDT
[#15]
i shoot my cz-75 (4.7"bbl, 115gn wwb)  at 50, 75, and 100 yards all the time and there really doesnt seem to be any holdover necessary at those distances.  My gun is zeroed for the point of impact to be 3" above the point of aim at 25 yards (6 oclock hold) and it ends up shooting a little high at the 50, 75, and 100 lines.  I imagine that with my zero, the bullet would drop back into the sight plane at somewhere between 150 and 175 yards and hit dead on at point of aim.  unfortunately i only have access to a 100 yard range, so this is just my WAG.