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7/4/2006 6:18:10 AM EDT
I have a ruger p85 in 9mm, but i'd like something else. only reason i got the gun was the price.. cmon, new at $175, i cant pass that up.. anyways, i cant decide between a glock for its toughness or a 1911 because its a 1911. tell me what y'all like about each and PLZ leave suggestions.

*price is a concern so nothin crazy
7/4/2006 6:26:58 AM EDT
[#1]
A 1911 can be pretty pricey , yet I would like to get one to learn the manual of arms and to play with, BUT, for serious work, I carry Glocks and I am partial to the G30 .45 ACP. I also own a G17 for the wife.
7/4/2006 6:32:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Glock gives you 3 choices in .45ACP (seeing as your choosing between Glock and a 1911)

Glock 30 Compact
Glock 36 Slimline (my personal favorite)
Glock 21 Full Size
7/4/2006 6:52:29 AM EDT
[#3]
What is the primary intended use? That might help a bit w/suggestions.
7/4/2006 7:27:25 AM EDT
[#4]
oops, sry... umm right now being only 17 (18 in october! w00t for m14 purchase!) it'd mainly be used for range shooting and to work on biulding my skills since i want to be in the special forces and DEA or FBI type work after that. Chance that dad would be using it for CHL from time to time.
7/4/2006 7:35:11 AM EDT
[#5]
Go to a range that'll let you rent several different pistols.  Rent as many as you can, shoot 'em all, buy whatever works for you.  Different people have different philosophies in handguns, different sized hands, different length fingers, different shaped bodies (for those who carry concealed) and so on.  Try before you buy.
7/4/2006 7:41:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Not that they are the greatest, but everyone ought to own at least one 1911. There are a bunch of folks who love them, and after all..."Fifty million Elvis fans can't be wrong." I finally gave in a bought a Springfield MilSpec, not the GI, but the MilSpec, last year. I love it. Do I feel the need to pimp it out and spend many $'s on it? No. But I like it for what it is - a timeless design. It works. The Glocks will work. I had a Glock 27 and it was a fine pistol BUT, I could not get comfortable with trying to carry it due to the trigger. Nothing wrong with it, but it just did not work for me. I have a Springfield XD9 fullsize that I carry and I feel better with the grip safety. I know I practice good trigger discipline but I could just imagine that Glock trigger getting caught on something and that was enough for me to get rid of it. Paid $520 for it, kept it a year, and sold it for $450.

BTW, Whatever you get between the Glock and 1911, you'll probably wind up getting the other one in a year or two anyway, so don't sweat it too bad. You can never have too many.
7/4/2006 1:51:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Used SIG 229/228/226/220 for around $400-$500 rock so;id 100% reliable
New Glock or Springfield XD for the same price range.


7/4/2006 2:45:39 PM EDT
[#8]

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Not that they are the greatest, but everyone ought to own at least one 1911. There are a bunch of folks who love them, and after all..."Fifty million Elvis fans can't be wrong." I finally gave in a bought a Springfield MilSpec, not the GI, but the MilSpec, last year. I love it. Do I feel the need to pimp it out and spend many $'s on it? No. But I like it for what it is - a timeless design. It works. The Glocks will work. I had a Glock 27 and it was a fine pistol BUT, I could not get comfortable with trying to carry it due to the trigger. Nothing wrong with it, but it just did not work for me. I have a Springfield XD9 fullsize that I carry and I feel better with the grip safety. I know I practice good trigger discipline but I could just imagine that Glock trigger getting caught on something and that was enough for me to get rid of it. Paid $520 for it, kept it a year, and sold it for $450.

BTW, Whatever you get between the Glock and 1911, you'll probably wind up getting the other one in a year or two anyway, so don't sweat it too bad. You can never have too many.


+1

SA 1911 (mil-spec or loaded), SIG P-226/P-229 or a G19/21/20 would be my first choices...all used of course
7/4/2006 5:58:51 PM EDT
[#9]
i'm leaning towards either a mil-spec or glock. what would be a good USED price for either the mil spec or, lets say a glock 21?
7/4/2006 6:08:08 PM EDT
[#10]

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i'm leaning towards either a mil-spec or glock. what would be a good USED price for either the mil spec or, lets say a glock 21?


SA milspec: NIB~$500+, $450 or so used

G21: 2nd gen: ~$400+; 3rd gen (NIB): $550+, used: ~$500+ or so
7/4/2006 6:20:18 PM EDT
[#11]

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oops, sry... umm right now being only 17 (18 in october! w00t for m14 purchase!) it'd mainly be used for range shooting and to work on biulding my skills since i want to be in the special forces and DEA or FBI type work after that. Chance that dad would be using it for CHL from time to time.


Last time I checked you can't buy a handgun until you're 21.
7/4/2006 7:26:15 PM EDT
[#12]

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oops, sry... umm right now being only 17 (18 in october! w00t for m14 purchase!) it'd mainly be used for range shooting and to work on biulding my skills since i want to be in the special forces and DEA or FBI type work after that. Chance that dad would be using it for CHL from time to time.


Last time I checked you can't buy a handgun until you're 21.
Depends on the law of that particular state.......
7/4/2006 7:47:01 PM EDT
[#13]

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Go to a range that'll let you rent several different pistols.  Rent as many as you can, shoot 'em all, buy whatever works for you.  Different people have different philosophies in handguns, different sized hands, different length fingers, different shaped bodies (for those who carry concealed) and so on.  Try before you buy.


Beat me to it. The voice of reason in a mob.

The #1 idea is to try before you buy so that you know if it fits your hand and works well for you. Case in point. I like Glocks but the grip frame is impossible for me to hold correctly after shooting a 1911 since 1968. The resultant mismatch has me getting FTF's & FTE's due to the way that I hold pistols. As a result, I prefer Sigs, XD's, and1911's. Not that there is anything wrong with a Glock but that it ain't right for me.

HTH,

wganz
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7/4/2006 8:10:55 PM EDT
[#14]
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oops, sry... umm right now being only 17 (18 in october! w00t for m14 purchase!) it'd mainly be used for range shooting and to work on biulding my skills since i want to be in the special forces and DEA or FBI type work after that. Chance that dad would be using it for CHL from time to time.


Last time I checked you can't buy a handgun until you're 21.he
7/4/2006 8:17:17 PM EDT
[#15]

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oops, sry... umm right now being only 17 (18 in october! w00t for m14 purchase!) it'd mainly be used for range shooting and to work on biulding my skills since i want to be in the special forces and DEA or FBI type work after that. Chance that dad would be using it for CHL from time to time.


Last time I checked you can't buy a handgun until you're 21.


true, but i just get the money, give to dad, then he purchases.. wow i sound like i'm 12...


nothing wrong w/ that--guns are for everyone!

h/w, +1 on trying out a firearm if you can before purchasing--some guns fit some and not others

FWIW: i'm a glock/1911 man myself; h/w, HKs and SIGs work for me too
7/4/2006 8:27:17 PM EDT
[#16]
I hit much better with my 1911, but it is a very custom piece.  If you can swing about $475-$550, then I recommend getting a Glock of some sort.  I had a Glock 23, but since my wife didn't care for the recoil, she likes the Glock 19 in 9mm much better!

PS

I say all of this, assuming that you will do this once you are of age and can legally purchase a pistol.
7/4/2006 8:50:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Mil-spec 1911


Caliber:   .45 ACP
Capacity:       7+1
Barrel: 5", 1:16 LH
Sights:  3 Dot Fixed Combat
Sight Radius: 6.25"
Size:           36 oz., 8.5" overall length
Trigger Pull: 5 to 6 lbs.
Magazines: 1
MSRP:         $724

thats all im gonna say here.

I dont have one myself but i sure as hell wish i did.....

If u go with the parkerized finish instead of the stainless its $100 bucks cheeper if the price throws you off.
7/4/2006 11:59:12 PM EDT
[#18]

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Mil-spec 1911
www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/PB9151LLarge.jpg

Caliber:   .45 ACP
Capacity:       7+1
Barrel: 5", 1:16 LH
Sights:  3 Dot Fixed Combat
Sight Radius: 6.25"
Size:           36 oz., 8.5" overall length
Trigger Pull: 5 to 6 lbs.
Magazines: 1
MSRP:         $724

thats all im gonna say here.

I dont have one myself but i sure as hell wish i did.....

If u go with the parkerized finish instead of the stainless its $100 bucks cheeper if the price throws you off.
www.springfield-armory.com/images/pistols/a1/PB9108L.jpg


unless you like SS or want to mod a SS, i'd get the old Park...
7/5/2006 12:22:03 PM EDT
[#19]
First off, froma fellow 17 y/o pistol shooter, a 9mm is a much better choice IMO, because ammo is half the price of .45ACP(granted you may be able to get a good deal on .45 ammo, but it is noticably more expensive, especially if you want to start shooting more). The lessened recoil is also good (less likely to flinch, etc), and you can get twice the capacity

Pistol choice is wide even if you stick with just 9mm. Glocks, XDs, CZs, and Sig Pros would all fit within your budget (You may be able to find used guns that are out of your price range new, but are reasonable used). My point there would be don't settle for something just because it is $100 less. Get what you really want, which will avoid later regrets. You're gonna end up buying the one you really want eventually anyway.

I personally got a XD9 bi-tone for my first centerfire pistol. It was $490 new; I could of gotten a blued version for less, but I wanted the bitone. I'm very happy with it, zero malfunctions. Haven't shot it quite as much as I want- I've had it for a little less than 2 years and put only about 500 rounds through it. Definately want to double that by summers end.

You should also consider getting a .22 pistol to practice with if you don't have one. It is much cheaper to shoot. I have a Ruger MKII and a Ruger Single Six revolver. I have used up quite a few Federal 550 round bulk packs.

Heres my XD: