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1/27/2003 4:19:16 PM EDT
I just picked up an old Llama .45 auto made in 1984, the 1911 style.  I was wondering if anybody knew much about them.  Do they take 1911 grips, slide realeases, etc.?  
 I took it out and ran 50 quick rounds through it, and was very surprised at the accuracy.
 Any feedback would be appreciated. I didn't really expect a lot out of it for $195.  
1/28/2003 7:00:04 AM EDT
[#1]
The last one I had was very accurate, surprised me.
I think very few parts interchange with the 1911 and if memory serves me correctly, the heat treat was wanting on those for long term use.
Nice range/project fun gun for $195...
as Llama always had a checkered reputation, I would only use and enjoy it as such.
50 rounds and no malfs?...I would have kept mine. [:\]
1/28/2003 7:49:55 AM EDT
[#2]
Very soft steel was the reputation of old...don't know if that was actually the case or not, but it probably had a factual basis in spotty QC and heat-treatment procedures.

Few if any 1911 parts/accessories will interchange. Great "glovebox" gun if it works well, and no big loss if it gets stolen.
2/6/2003 7:36:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Better than a loric,jennings,or bryco type guns.
they are really not that bad for the price they can be had.
 If you want something that will interchange with colt or other 1911 you might check out those argentine 1927 models(300.00).

I think like the Ballester Molinas the Lama can only use the mags and maybe the barrel.

 But never-the-less a good gun.

Bob
2/8/2003 3:06:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Better than a Charles Daly 1911!!!

'Course, that's not saying much...

See, God made men...Sam Colt made men equal...and Gaston Glock gave smart men a tactical advantage!!

Regards,

FastVFR

PS. Three Cheers For Tactical Tupperware!!!
2/8/2003 3:42:02 PM EDT
[#5]
I shot a newer one recently. It fired about 100 rounds without problem and seemed reasonably accurate. Still not a pistol I'd trust my life on, but not the piece of shit I was expecting. For $ 200, what the hell, if it doesn't fall apart too quickly you did pretty well.
2/10/2003 9:39:49 AM EDT
[#6]
I had a Llama .45 a while back... in fact, it was my first pistol ever.  Ran great for about 300 rounds, then the extractor broke.  Got a new one, and it was blank!  Took it to Alan Tillman (one of the top 100 pistolsmiths in the country, specialising in 1911s), and it took him three tries to get it working right.  Then I got 40 rounds through it before the extractor broke again.  Sold it at a gunshow for $100.  

Wouldnt' have been bad if it werent' for that extractor.  Different design than a 1911, so it wasn't just like sticking another one in.  Could tell the steel was quite soft from the slide stop notch being beaten to hell.