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Posted: 4/5/2006 12:20:09 PM EDT
How many round before you consider even the most "reliable" pistol, reliable enough for you to carry ?

Just wondering what everybody else does ?
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 12:24:58 PM EDT
The usual advice is 200-500.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:05:36 PM EDT
I put 400 rounds of my carry ammo (Fed. HST) through it in the first 2 days I got my last carry gun, and 100 more each month of them. And if I shoot any more than that then shoot American Eagle.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:07:36 PM EDT
500 problem-free rounds, including 100 rounds of carry ammo before it is considered OK.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:07:38 PM EDT
200+
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:08:51 PM EDT
I usually put about 200 to 300 through it at the range for break in and as long as it runs smoothly with no problems I have no problem carrying it.
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Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:11:42 PM EDT
No need, I carry Glocks...





Seriously, 400-500 for a primary and at least 200 for a pocket/BUG.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:15:14 PM EDT
500 trouble free rounds is a minimum.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:22:56 PM EDT
I was told by a friend that is a gun nut that he puts 250 trouble free rounds through his. He then puts 150 trouble free duty/carry rounds through it. He then cleans it and looks for any abnormal wear, if none he then sees it fit for carry.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:31:38 PM EDT
100 no problems.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 1:43:30 PM EDT
I do a 100 round break-in with all my new guns where I figure out that it doesnt like this ammo, or that mag ect. After the break-in session I like to fire 300 rounds without cleaning , doesnt have to be in one sitting. If it will fire 300 rounds accross 2 or 3 sessions without cleaning and without failures, I call i t good enough to carry.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 2:03:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 2:07:13 PM EDT
My old carry gun got about 1000 through it before I carried it, but it wasn't necessarily for break in as much for fun and because I hadn't done much with semi-auto's at the time. My new one will probably get 200 until I can afford more.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 2:12:28 PM EDT
If it's new . 200 break in , then I want to see at least
400 without any mechanical failures .
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 2:19:18 PM EDT
3 mags of carry ammo and I'm set. I'll never have more then three mags on me so being able to fire 200+ rounds in one sitting isn't that important to me.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 2:20:49 PM EDT
200 + and 4 or 5 mags.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 3:04:40 PM EDT
344 on my most recent carry gun - 50rnds of that was carry ammo(185gr GoldDot JHP +P). the 8th round(last round in the first mag) FTE. it was a hiccup that i attribute to my grip - after that ZERO malfunctions. God bless H&K!!

i ran about 50rnds through my jframe and a little less through my P3AT
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:12:09 PM EDT
I like at least 500 rounds for break in. Then 100 minimum trouble free carry rounds.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:36:10 PM EDT
MarkM started it with the answer to stupid questions....Then every idiot after him started using it for everything involving numbers, If anyone post just 87 they should be banned at least for a month.


Its all personal opinion on round count. I think 1000 ball rounds 100-200 carry rounds with no problems is what i go by.

(note) i do not have my CPL yet but in a month I should get the call.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:50:50 PM EDT
Answering that as asked won't help you much, so I'll modify it.

"How many rounds need I feed for me to trust the CCW?"

I start with 500+ ball ammo. I carry 1911s and that's how many you should have min before you break the gun down. No probs there and I am confident.

Next I move to HP. If I can fire a few boxes without fail I'm fully confident the pistol will function as per my needs. I carry a clean pistol and I'd be out of ammo after 26 rds MAX (7+1, 8, 10) if not 16 so on avg, the Clean pistol need only cycle a box of ammo per SHTF. If HPs were problematic I would send the pistol back and repeat as nec, but assuming I needed to delay for some bizarre reason, I would go with Pow R Balls or RBCD and see if it could go the distance woth those. Yes? Use that. No? use Ball until I can send it in. I have rarely if ever had a problem dumping a box of defense ammo from a clean pistol.


Naturally, the more rounds that accrue the more confidence I have.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:51:12 PM EDT
No need, I carry CZs.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 7:28:11 PM EDT
250 rounds of FMJ and 100 rounds of carry ammo works for me.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 4:11:25 AM EDT
..........eighty....seven....rounds...........sounds about right.......
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 4:19:51 AM EDT
A case (1000 rounds)
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 4:35:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 11:17:13 AM EDT

The number of rounds fired is not as Important as how well you Know the gun.

Examples from me.

Taurus .357 mag revolver bought new.
Clean , inspect , 50 round function test. (various ammo)
Clean , inspect , 50 rounds practice. ( proposed carry ammo)
Clean , inspect , sight in with carry loads .
No problems - I'm good to go.

Sig P226 .40SW- like new CPO (Factory refurbished)
Clean , inspect , 50 round function test
Clean , inspect , Shot 3 boxes of different loads (was havin fun )
Clean , inspect , picked carry load and shot 2 boxes / sighted in
Had no problems - but want to practice some more before I carry it.

Springer GI .45 (new)- Pretty much Same routine , but had a couple FTF/FTEs
Did a Fluff and Buff - shot some more Hard Ball
Will shoot it some more before I feel comfortable
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 11:37:12 AM EDT
100 of practice ammo. Then 20 of my carry ammo to verify it feeds. But I use HK so feed isn't ever a problem.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 12:34:40 PM EDT
Couple hundred practice and 50 carry rounds is all I've ever needed to be confident in my HK's. Wheelguns get about a 50-50 split of practice and carry before being deemed good to go.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 10:42:55 AM EDT
Revolvers- I use only Colts and have no issues. Revolvers don't generally have malfunctions due to break-in. However, many revolvers (read RUGER) will function a lot more smoothly after at least 1000 rds have been fired through it.

Automatics- Depends on the pistol. Some autos (1911's esp.) deserve a fair break-in before you can necessarily expect perfect function...I don't get concerned about a hiccup for the first 500 rds. Many modern designs don't need as much break-in. If an auto eats up it's first 200 rds with no problems whatsoever, I think it can be trusted.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 10:56:30 PM EDT
I’ll go with about 300 rounds with absolutely no problems and I’m happy.

That’ll include maybe 40 rounds of street ammo, both to confirm reliability and to verify point of impact. I’d prefer to shoot more of the street ammo, but it’s just too expensive.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 3:23:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
500 problem-free rounds, including 100 rounds of carry ammo before it is considered OK.



This is about right for me.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 5:00:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HardShell:
No need, I carry Glocks...




beat me to it... :)

Link Posted: 4/8/2006 5:15:41 PM EDT
200-300 problem free rounds makes me feel pretty good about the function. In reality, that really only applies to the first week or so....by the time I have owned something for any longer it has been to the range several times and has seen at least 500 rounds through it....by that point I know if there will be anything to worry about. As others stated....a few boxes of the actual carry ammo is a must.....WWB proves that WWB works...that doesnt mean that 10,000 round fired reliably gaurantees a single JHP will feed correctly.
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