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Originally Posted By SquatchAv8: They have made so many changes that, while what you said is true, the two pistols have very little in common, visually at least. I own both the RM and Arex Delta M. Their fire control components have a lot in common.  Rost Martin RM1C Tabletop Review and Field Strip Skip to field strip. I would not try at home, but the fact that Graham was able to interchange the slides and dry fire is pretty wild. I also think it is a good thing if the internal design is similar to or the same as the Delta. |
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Originally Posted By 1Coyote-conquest:I love how people say to get a used Glock. I cant find one for under $400 anymore. But normally a used G19 or G17 of any gen is going to be a $550-$600 gun here. There's just too much demand for them. |
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Originally Posted By ken_mays: OP, it helps if you quote the post you're replying to, instead of randomly replying in the thread. Out of that list, I've had about everything at least once; I think it would be the RXM for me because 1) I haven't owned one yet 2) I don't care for Glock ergos very much 3) decent optic cut 4) replaceable frame. HAHA I figured it out! Thanks amigo |
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Their fire control components have a lot in common.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlhz6mQKJMSkip to field strip. I would not try at home, but the fact that Graham was able to interchange the slides and dry fire is pretty wild. I also think it is a good thing if the internal design is similar to or the same as the Delta. RM threaded barrels work in Delta Ms |
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Originally Posted By dfariswheel: For an all steel service pistol size 9mm, look at the Sarsilmaz SAR 2000. Forged and CNC machined slide and frame, and hammer forged barrel. In Black you can find them for Under $400 if you shop, around $480 in stainless steel. This is arguably the best CZ-75 clone. This is a lifetime gun that will last. https://i.imgur.com/Uqbv1Fj.jpg Not entirely sure about that. SAR build isn't the most consistent, and customer service has left a bit to be desired. Comparisons are now, at least it seems, almost a decade old but the Canik CZ pattern guns usually won the comparison. I have four, so maybe I'm biased.  Out of the OP's list I'd pick either the Canick or XD, only because of my experiences. |
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Originally Posted By emmetf: Used or police trade-in Glock 19. Generation doesn't matter. If you're determined to buy something new, anything you listed previously will work. The Sarsilmaz SAR 9 in particular is a great shooting handgun, might consider one of those. +1 Keep an eye on PSA they’ve been blowing out SARs for as low as $169 to 199 |
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Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Their fire control components have a lot in common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlhz6mQKJMSkip to field strip. I would not try at home, but the fact that Graham was able to interchange the slides and dry fire is pretty wild. I also think it is a good thing if the internal design is similar to or the same as the Delta. Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By SquatchAv8: They have made so many changes that, while what you said is true, the two pistols have very little in common, visually at least. I own both the RM and Arex Delta M. Their fire control components have a lot in common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlhz6mQKJMSkip to field strip. I would not try at home, but the fact that Graham was able to interchange the slides and dry fire is pretty wild. I also think it is a good thing if the internal design is similar to or the same as the Delta. They have the best triggers of any pistol I've owned. I know that's a subjective, personal opinion. |
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Originally Posted By SquatchAv8: Rost Martins are fantastic pistols. They have the best triggers of any pistol I've owned. I know that's a subjective, personal opinion. Originally Posted By SquatchAv8: Originally Posted By NN300BLK: Originally Posted By SquatchAv8: They have made so many changes that, while what you said is true, the two pistols have very little in common, visually at least. I own both the RM and Arex Delta M. Their fire control components have a lot in common. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlhz6mQKJMSkip to field strip. I would not try at home, but the fact that Graham was able to interchange the slides and dry fire is pretty wild. I also think it is a good thing if the internal design is similar to or the same as the Delta. They have the best triggers of any pistol I've owned. I know that's a subjective, personal opinion. I highly considered making an RM1c my new primary carry gun, but I went with the Echelon 4.0c since I already have compatible accessories/magazines. |
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OP, what is most important consideration in your list of requirements? Price? It seems to me a lot of the guys here are simply throwing out options without that consideration, but I guess it's all relative, right? I suppose a $600 gun may be "poverty" level to some. If price point is a major consideration, then I offer the Taurus G3C and full-size G3, as a few have already mentioned. Academy recently had a sale on the G3C and there was a rebate from Taurus on top of that, so the final price, including tax, was $197.38 - new. At that price, it was hard to say no so I picked one up. I've only got a few hundred rounds through mine, but so far no problems. They're pretty neat little guns - good ergos, small, 13rds of 9mm, take Glock sights, can use Sig mags, and they have a second strike ability. I'm putting it in one of the cars' gloveboxes. As for the G3, I see them selling on GB for around $125 - $150, new. I think the hesitation to buy these comes from the Taurus name. |
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Originally Posted By CarlosC: OP, what is most important consideration in your list of requirements? Price? It seems to me a lot of the guys here are simply throwing out options without that consideration, but I guess it's all relative, right? I suppose a $600 gun may be "poverty" level to some. If price point is a major consideration, then I offer the Taurus G3C and full-size G3, as a few have already mentioned. Academy recently had a sale on the G3C and there was a rebate from Taurus on top of that, so the final price, including tax, was $197.38 - new. At that price, it was hard to say no so I picked one up. I've only got a few hundred rounds through mine, but so far no problems. They're pretty neat little guns - good ergos, small, 13rds of 9mm, take Glock sights, can use Sig mags, and they have a second strike ability. I'm putting it in one of the cars' gloveboxes. As for the G3, I see them selling on GB for around $125 - $150, new. I think the hesitation to buy these comes from the Taurus name. I think more than a decade ago now, Taurus pulled a SIG much worse than SIG has, deny, deny, deny, til a Brazilian cop with a shake awake service pistol showed his issue Taurus firing repeatedly on a police range just by shaking it on YouTube. Taurus settled, fixed their sear issue, and now are discounted for reputational damage rather than mechanical or quality issues on their semi-autos. |
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I bought two S&W M&P 2.0's in .40 S&W last year for $249 each. Both gun were probably carried by a desk worker. There was no wear inside or out. They looked brand new even internally. They had all of the accessories / panels etc, and two mags They both have a lifetime warranty with free upgrades to the straight trigger, new night sights, etc, through Lew Horton's, the distributor they were bought through. The 9mm usually goes for a little more, maybe $40, but not much. That's a good option. Honestly, any Glock or M&P if bought through a police department sell off on Gunbroker or even in store, is a fantastic deal. They are equally reliable, parts and magazines are dirt cheap as well. Mags, used, are about $15. I bought four from CDNN and two of them looked new, and were in factory packaging, and two were in real good condition. I've tested them all, and they all function perfectly in both guns without issue. |
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This isn't a poverty problem but one of just a bad spender. I understand that you have trouble saving up but only because you're spending it otherwise. My thought is save up, buy once, cry once. At this point, you'll probably sell the pistol to fund other things. My thought is that try your best to save up to at least $900 bucks, buy a nice pistol that you want, and just be done with it. |
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: Star is outta business, so NO, it isn't. Plus it's a used gun from the early 90s at the latest. I have one, it's nice but best bang? No. Sar9 or Arex Delta M by far. Quoted for emphasis. My 30M lost an extractor (long out of stock everywhere) and it was a couple years before a spare slide popped up on Gunbroker. I’d bought it as a curio so I was prepared to deal with the parts situation from the beginning. It would be a poor choice for a handgun to carry or do a lot of training with, IMO. |
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Op being cheap is what I endeavour to become. Err I am thrify. Any way, I went on a budget pistol buying spree and I own over 40 just 9mm pistols. Now if course I would get the p10c because I am a CZ guy. But we are blessed today with multiple options that are very good guns. We'll do Ruger first. Security9, security 9 compact, Sr9 and hopefully in the near future the American will be around $325 Then there is the RXM Beretta AXshitiforget A1. Those are in the $350ish range. Outstanding really. Springer XD. They have xd xdm xdme mod3 whatever. But they are in the $325 range and are very good. Also got that xdme compact 45 and its great. Sar9 and other Turkish pistols. I own the sar9 and a mc9 disruptor. Nothing wrong with those. If you can swing the IWI Masada or Jericho enhanced they are pretty good pistols but run greater than $350. I don't do tarass but lots of guys say the new tarass, ass(I forgot which model) is good. They should do a pistol named ASS. If course CZ. But those are in the $550 range and the IWI offerings are likely around that. I S&W SD9 2.0. $350 after taxes. It's a new one to me so I only have a few 100 rounds threw it. The best cheap assed close out pistol I purchased was $325 and that was a Styer. Absolutely a $600 9mm at the time. There are lots more choices and I don't own a poor 9mm pistol. Some are better than others. Some features folks like more or less. And you can spend a bunch more money and get something kooler but I own these cheaper options so can recommend. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Taurus G3C. Takes Glock sights, SIG P226 mags so you can get a 20 round mag and use that in a SUB 2000. Trigger better than the 2C. An ARFCOMer used a 2C or 3C in a defensive shooting, worked fine. HiPoint, but you'll have to buy suspenders or a shoulder holster. 3-D printer and then you can print Glocks and Glock mags to your heart's content. ETA: If you're spending Dagger money than a Glurk 19 will suit, Muslim child labor is cheaper than Carolina child labor. This I got a new one (g2)for like $250 and a used one for like $175 It’s just the perfect size and I use it a lot And I own other higher dollar pistols |
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Originally Posted By dalle0001: This isn't a poverty problem but one of just a bad spender. I understand that you have trouble saving up but only because you're spending it otherwise. My thought is save up, buy once, cry once. At this point, you'll probably sell the pistol to fund other things. My thought is that try your best to save up to at least $900 bucks, buy a nice pistol that you want, and just be done with it.  I am that guy too. Or maybe used to be. Now I wait until something comes along I have to have. Was debating buying a PDP next check or buying a clapped out G21 trade in now. My patience paid off and I found a G41 locally for a steal. Point being, having a bunch of cheap guns you’re not excited to shoot is a vicious cycle. That used to be me. |
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I just bought two budget pistols on sale at PSA lcp max stainless slide $199. XDM elite defender compact $299. Took them out yesterday with my son. First thing I did was a pinky extension on the XDM. It should come with one but it didn't. That is my only complaint The XDM shot nice fist size groups at 7-10yds for both of us. It reminds me of a g26 with a g19 slide. Thick and blocky. No jams or ftf. I'm happy with my purchase. It made for a fun day with my son. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I am that guy too. Or maybe used to be. Now I wait until something comes along I have to have. Was debating buying a PDP next check or buying a clapped out G21 trade in now. My patience paid off and I found a G41 locally for a steal. Point being, having a bunch of cheap guns you’re not excited to shoot is a vicious cycle. That used to be me. Let me help that little guy on one of your shoulders. The PDP is a great pistol. It's level up pricing from what Op had in mind though. I own the PDP, HK vp9, HK vp9L, several CZ's, m&p's, echelon, IWI, beretta's Several guys at work own Echelons and love them. |
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This sure seems like a lot of gun for under $300 right now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-xd-m-elite-defender-osp-4-5-9mm-19rd-black-xdmed9459bhcosp.html Attached File |
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Originally Posted By MallNinja531: This sure seems like a lot of gun for under $300 right now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-xd-m-elite-defender-osp-4-5-9mm-19rd-black-xdmed9459bhcosp.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505993/1000020983_png-3725722.JPG This is a steal for this pistol or the Compact they are also selling. Fantastic guns, reliable, accurate and able to be take abuse. I've got several of the XDm 4.5's along with several other models. You won't regret spending $300 on these. |
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Originally Posted By Rugby3: This is a steal for this pistol or the Compact they are also selling. Fantastic guns, reliable, accurate and able to be take abuse. I've got several of the XDm 4.5's along with several other models. You won't regret spending $300 on these. Originally Posted By Rugby3: Originally Posted By MallNinja531: This sure seems like a lot of gun for under $300 right now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-xd-m-elite-defender-osp-4-5-9mm-19rd-black-xdmed9459bhcosp.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505993/1000020983_png-3725722.JPG This is a steal for this pistol or the Compact they are also selling. Fantastic guns, reliable, accurate and able to be take abuse. I've got several of the XDm 4.5's along with several other models. You won't regret spending $300 on these. I bought the compact and just tried it saturday. Im half tempted to get the full size also. My only complaint is it should come with a pinky extension. They had one at the range so it worked out for me. Excellent pistol. |
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Originally Posted By cb69: I bought the compact and just tried it saturday. Im half tempted to get the full size also. My only complaint is it should come with a pinky extension. They had one at the range so it worked out for me. Excellent pistol. Originally Posted By cb69: Originally Posted By Rugby3: Originally Posted By MallNinja531: This sure seems like a lot of gun for under $300 right now. https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-xd-m-elite-defender-osp-4-5-9mm-19rd-black-xdmed9459bhcosp.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505993/1000020983_png-3725722.JPG This is a steal for this pistol or the Compact they are also selling. Fantastic guns, reliable, accurate and able to be take abuse. I've got several of the XDm 4.5's along with several other models. You won't regret spending $300 on these. I bought the compact and just tried it saturday. Im half tempted to get the full size also. My only complaint is it should come with a pinky extension. They had one at the range so it worked out for me. Excellent pistol. Buy the full size!!!! I have a few other XDm's and a Mod3 not in this picture. Great ergo's, accurate, reliable and tough.  |
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I am very, very happy with my $320ish Inglis Hi-Power. For a great CCW: Shield Plus(es) are selling for about $400 new on gunbroker. Shield 1.0's float around $200-$250. Reliable, small, & cheap. PSA Daggers are usually less than $350. If you want a Glock or M&P: LE trade in. Dont hesitate to buy .40 and swap barrel. |
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Originally Posted By Bigfish9202: This right here. Can't go wrong with carried a lot shot a little police guns! Originally Posted By Bigfish9202: Originally Posted By d4xycrq: Keep an eye out for a Police Trade In Glock. Didn't realize so many smart people around here. You may have to wait, but this is a great idea. From your list : Glock: 43 - Go with the 19. S&W: Shield or Bodyguard Taurus: <----Would never choose a Taurus. Ruger: RXM , Security <----Ruger known for lower cost and reliable items. |
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I know that $250 itch all too well; it’s the "buy a Taurus now or wait a week for something better" struggle. If you can hold out for just $100 more, you get into the Mossberg MC2c territory (~$320–$350 street price). It’s the ultimate sleeper that most people overlook because they only think of Mossberg for shotguns. It’s only 1.1 inches wide but carries 15+1, which effectively beats the Shield and the G43X on your list for capacity. Also, the 'Safe Takedown System' is the big winner for me; you can remove the striker assembly without ever pulling the trigger to strip the gun. I just published a 2,500-round technical evaluation on one. It had a short break-in period (about 200 rounds), but after that, it ran like a tank and quickly became my EDC. If you want to see the actual accuracy data and how the internals held up after that many rounds, I did a full data-driven breakdown here. It’s 100% worth the extra few days of saving to get a gun that punches way above its price tag. Let us know what you decide to run with! |
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Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: Star is outta business, so NO, it isn't. Plus it's a used gun from the early 90s at the latest. I have one, it's nice but best bang? No. Sar9 or Arex Delta M by far. An all steel pistol, for under $300, no funk, no junk, no plastic crap! Worried about parts? Just buy two. |
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Originally Posted By insider: An all steel pistol, for under $300, no funk, no junk, no plastic crap! Worried about parts? Just buy two. Originally Posted By insider: Originally Posted By EncoreGolf: Star is outta business, so NO, it isn't. Plus it's a used gun from the early 90s at the latest. I have one, it's nice but best bang? No. Sar9 or Arex Delta M by far. An all steel pistol, for under $300, no funk, no junk, no plastic crap! Worried about parts? Just buy two. $600 ain't a poverty budget SD gun. |
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