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Link Posted: 2/6/2020 9:39:46 AM EDT
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walther p99 c
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 10:08:44 PM EDT
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I absolutely love my Sig Sauer SP2022. It’s (for me) my best shooting pistol in terms of handling and accuracy.

It just fits my hand perfectly and points naturally. I shoot it extremely well.
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 10:12:49 PM EDT
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My second favorite carry/compact size is a CZ P-07
Link Posted: 3/5/2020 10:21:59 PM EDT
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I'm a striker-fired guy, but I always wonder why the Sig SP2022 isn't on any of these lists.
I have very little experience with them, but the ones I've shot have been pretty nice.
Is there something I don't know?
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You don’t know what you’re missing. It’s the “sleeper Sig”. And half or less the price of a 226 or 229. I’ve been a CZ fan for a while and like my P-07, but the 2022 blows it away.

Link Posted: 3/5/2020 10:50:48 PM EDT
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Nothing other than it's a full sized pistol.
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The 2022 Should be considered a compact as it is a 4” 15-round 9.

It’s almost identical to another “compact” in that same size 15-round 9mm category; the CZ P-07.

Both the 07 and the 2022 would fall into the overall Glock 19-size compact size slot.

“Full size” CZ75B shown for comparison.





Link Posted: 3/6/2020 7:02:37 AM EDT
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The 2022 Should be considered a compact as it is a 4” 15-round 9.

It’s almost identical to another “compact” in that same size 15-round 9mm category; the CZ P-07.

Both the 07 and the 2022 would fall into the overall Glock 19-size compact size slot.

“Full size” CZ75B shown for comparison.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/131211/0E22C7DF-0EC1-4095-8143-C106CECAD815-1303769.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/131211/038FABAF-8567-4AC3-97EA-13802D782289-1303770.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/131211/5E27BAEA-958E-4716-8199-21AA40C0F9BF-1303771.jpg
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Unfortunately, the SP2022 with the magazine is as tall as a G17. Definitely not a compact. And it's also thicker.
Link Posted: 3/6/2020 7:31:24 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, the SP2022 with the magazine is as tall as a G17. Definitely not a compact. And it's also thicker.
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Absolutely true.  There is NOTHING compact about the SP2022
Link Posted: 3/6/2020 8:40:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/6/2020 6:55:34 PM EDT
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I'm also having a hard time believing the P30/P30L were "designed for .40" because the sources I'm finding say that the P30 got its start via police contracts in Europe. Do the German Federal Customs Administration and the German Bundespolizei use .40 S&W?

I've also seen a lot of people say that the P30 in 9mm is pretty snappy compared to other plastic-framed 9mm service pistols, which again casts doubt that it was designed for an even harsher cartridge. Never had the opportunity to fire one myself. I thought the P2000 was pretty pleasant for its size, though.
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All of these pistols were designed around the .40S&W?

The first one I looked up, the P250 on wiki...

“The P250 chambered in 9×19mm Parabellum was introduced to the North American market on November 7, 2007[1] followed by the .45 ACP compact model in February 2008 at the SHOT Show. The last of the models were introduced in late 2009.”

It was introduced in 9mm. It wasn’t until 2 years later the .40 was released.

The Mauser M2 was initially released in .45. .40 came later.

The Sig Pro was designed specifically around the .40 as is the USP, Beretta 8000 Cougar, and P229. Some of the others I couldn’t find anything specific about their design timeline. I know you are the .40 guy here so I trust you likely know more than I do...
I'm also having a hard time believing the P30/P30L were "designed for .40" because the sources I'm finding say that the P30 got its start via police contracts in Europe. Do the German Federal Customs Administration and the German Bundespolizei use .40 S&W?

I've also seen a lot of people say that the P30 in 9mm is pretty snappy compared to other plastic-framed 9mm service pistols, which again casts doubt that it was designed for an even harsher cartridge. Never had the opportunity to fire one myself. I thought the P2000 was pretty pleasant for its size, though.
I might be a month late to this discussion but I'm going to reply anyway. It's easy to tell whether a pistol was designed with .40 in mind or not: just compare its mag capacity in the two calibers. Pistols designed around 9mm will have magwells that are too narrow for .40 which leads to a large difference in capacity. Examples include the Beretta 92/96 (5 round difference), the Sig 226 (5 round difference), and the CZ-75 (6 round difference). Pistols designed with .40 in mind from the start will use a wider magazine leading to a smaller difference in capacity. The Beretta 8000 and PX-4, the Sig Pro, the Sig P250/P320, and the CZ P-07 all lose only 3 rounds in .40. The Hk P30 loses only 2 rounds in .40 because it uses the magwell dimensions of the USP compact which was designed for .40.

There's one notable exception to this: Glock was designed before .40 was a thing but the capacity of their .40s are quite close to their 9s. That's because Glock's polymer over steel 9mm mags are so thick that they could make an optimal. 40 mag in the same space by using a thinner polymer shell.
Link Posted: 3/7/2020 10:45:20 AM EDT
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Have experience with a Beretta M9A3, and the trigger was excellent.  Just a bit too big.
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You just need the right belt and holster.

https://imgur.com/a/u39yeGg
Link Posted: 3/7/2020 11:41:25 PM EDT
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You just need the right belt and holster.

https://imgur.com/a/u39yeGg
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I have the belt covered.  I run an Ares Gear Aegis.
Link Posted: 3/8/2020 4:38:04 PM EDT
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I like my SIG P239. I prefer my S&W 908. Slender, light but not too small. Been out of production for a while but parts are still available.

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Link Posted: 3/8/2020 9:16:19 PM EDT
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The third gen single stack Smith's are hard to beat. My 3913 ls is just about perfect, thin and light but not to light and not to small.
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