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Posted: 4/10/2020 1:29:49 PM EDT
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I've hiked mountains in my rainbow assault mandals.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:06:13 AM EDT
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Ok, well I'm admittedly too lazy to read through 12 pages of this thread.
Who is the go to for an rmr cut for a Smith m&p 1.0? It's a vtac model. TIA. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:28:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogrobber13: Ok, well I'm admittedly too lazy to read through 12 pages of this thread. Who is the go to for an rmr cut for a Smith m&p 1.0? It's a vtac model. TIA. Mark Housel at L&M Precision |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 4:17:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Haven't shot in a few weeks. Not the fastest guy but I'm consistent. Distance is 17 Y. Piece of cake with RMR. We threw some movement in later on.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVQSBKrzA4sMakes me rethink fucking with guys in sandals...Good shooting! |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 6:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogrobber13: Ok, well I'm admittedly too lazy to read through 12 pages of this thread. Who is the go to for an rmr cut for a Smith m&p 1.0? It's a vtac model. TIA. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:21:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Shooting with an optic == better shooter? Interesting. I never knew that equipment gave you skill. I always assumed it was the other way around. It absolutely improves your shooting. Why do you think competition guys, cool guys, and even cops are switching over? Because it makes them slower/worse? And we won’t even get into low light or other non perfect conditions. Way better shooting results with an optic. It’s not even an argument. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:00:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3L04D]
[#7]
Just got this today. Hate bragging about a China optic but honestly the features blow away the RMR. Warranty does, too. Looking forward to getting it zeroed
Cut from Black Phoenix Customs. They had a cut and nitride finish Sale in March for like $80. Ridiculous. Added the tall sights and was at like $135 shipped. Hope can you say no to that  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal: Just got this today. Hate bragging about a China optic but honestly the features blow away the RMR. Warranty does, too. Looking forward to getting it zeroed Cut from Black Phoenix Customs. They had a cut and nitride finish Sale in March for like $80. Ridiculous. Added the tall sights and was at like $135 shipped. Hope can you say no to that https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263586/20200411_215553_jpg-1363312.JPG Nice. Holosun makes good shit. Thinking about putting their new 507k on my 43x. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 10:02:19 AM EDT
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The Holosun is a great optic but that warranty statement is 100% false. They are nowhere near Trijicon in the warranty department.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal: Just got this today. Hate bragging about a China optic but honestly the features blow away the RMR. Warranty does, too. Looking forward to getting it zeroed Cut from Black Phoenix Customs. They had a cut and nitride finish Sale in March for like $80. Ridiculous. Added the tall sights and was at like $135 shipped. Hope can you say no to that https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/263586/20200411_215553_jpg-1363312.JPG |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 12:45:00 PM EDT
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Man I'm ready to take the micro red dot plunge.
The only problem is there are no good options. The holosun looks decent but I made a vow to avoid Chinese products whenever possible because fuck China. That leaves the Trijicon but I can't stand the blue tint. I really want a trijicon with clearer glass. I guess I'll keep waiting... |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 12:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: Man I'm ready to take the micro red dot plunge. The only problem is there are no good options. The holosun looks decent but I made a vow to avoid Chinese products whenever possible because fuck China. That leaves the Trijicon but I can't stand the blue tint. I really want a trijicon with clearer glass. I guess I'll keep waiting... I finally decided to get an RMR after the Type 2 came out. I think the blue tint is considerably less than something like the dual-illuminated older RMRs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 1:04:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: Man I'm ready to take the micro red dot plunge. The only problem is there are no good options. The holosun looks decent but I made a vow to avoid Chinese products whenever possible because fuck China. That leaves the Trijicon but I can't stand the blue tint. I really want a trijicon with clearer glass. I guess I'll keep waiting... RMR type 2 |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 1:21:52 PM EDT
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Ok I have to admit I don't think I've ever looked through the type 2. I will check it out.
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Posted: 4/12/2020 2:52:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3L04D]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuryakyn: The Holosun is a great optic but that warranty statement is 100% false. They are nowhere near Trijicon in the warranty department. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 2:58:46 PM EDT
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The RMR type 2 and Holosun 400/500 series are duty grade per Sage Dynamics testing. They both use the same footprint as well.
I prefer the RMR but been very impressed handling my friends holosuns. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 3:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: Ok I have to admit I don't think I've ever looked through the type 2. I will check it out. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 3:10:01 PM EDT
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Does anyone have any ideas for an low optic set up and holster for a ruger mark ii 6 7/8" .
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Posted: 4/12/2020 3:14:08 PM EDT
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What's everyone using for holsters? Prefer Safariland with level 1 thumb retention. Currently using the 7378 but that won't work anymore
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Posted: 4/12/2020 3:45:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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@joemal
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Posted: 4/12/2020 4:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal: What's everyone using for holsters? Prefer Safariland with level 1 thumb retention. Currently using the 7378 but that won't work anymore For glocks? Are you looking for a Safariland ALS retention system? 6390RDS. There's also 7TS version of it called the 7390RDS. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 6:08:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3L04D]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: For glocks? Are you looking for a Safariland ALS retention system? 6390RDS. There's also 7TS version of it called the 7390RDS. ETA good Lord why are RDS holsters so much more expensive? My current safariland was like $30 |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 7:38:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: The Type 2 has tint as well but when you're actually shooting on a timer - you don't notice it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By Overkill777: Ok I have to admit I don't think I've ever looked through the type 2. I will check it out. +1 The tint isn’t really a factor when shooting, because your focus is more on the target. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2020 8:23:50 PM EDT
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And for anyone that hates the tint, it's there for a reason. That tint helps you see the dot and prolong battery life. The Trijicon MRO also has the same tint.
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Posted: 4/12/2020 8:27:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal: Perfect thank you. Yes Glock 45. I like the ALS ETA good Lord why are RDS holsters so much more expensive? My current safariland was like $30 They're in line with the duty /military series holsters price wise. They're also in major demand with massive back orders. |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 10:57:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AIWB: Way better shooting results with an optic. Words mean things. Shooter is not the same as shooting. |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 11:56:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Words mean things. Shooter is not the same as shooting. @bcauz3y It made me a better shooter. However - It didn't give me skill, it forced me to be better (notably in presentation and trigger control). When I pick up an irons gun now, I'm significantly better than I used to be. This is common among red dot converts. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2020 6:57:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SBR300BLK]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overkill777: Man I'm ready to take the micro red dot plunge. The only problem is there are no good options. The holosun looks decent but I made a vow to avoid Chinese products whenever possible because fuck China. That leaves the Trijicon but I can't stand the blue tint. I really want a trijicon with clearer glass. I guess I'll keep waiting... There's a brand that makes pistol red dots in England of all places, they look pretty nice but can't recall the name. With you on avoiding chinesium on duty weapons if possible. ETA: Shield Sights. Expensive but look nice, oem for some trijicon models apparently. https://www.shieldpsd.com/ All red dots made in Great Britain per their website Q and A. Anyone have experience with this brand? |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 7:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SBR300BLK: There's a brand that makes pistol red dots in England of all places, they look pretty nice but can't recall the name. With you on avoiding chinesium on duty weapons if possible. ETA: Shield Sights. Expensive but look nice, oem for some trijicon models apparently. https://www.shieldpsd.com/ All red dots made in Great Britain per their website Q and A. Anyone have experience with this brand? By all accounts they're pretty fragile. Aaron Cowan did some testing and they didn't fair well. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2020 9:47:34 AM EDT
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I've got an SMSc, 1200+ rds, carried 7 days a week 10-15 hrs a day
for about 90 days so far and has held zero since day one shot weekly. I dont expect it would hold up real well if it was bounced across the parking lot but, I'm happy with it until something better becomes available. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2020 5:36:14 PM EDT
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I took this out and zero'd it in today.
Really like it. 
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Posted: 4/17/2020 5:15:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: By all accounts they're pretty fragile. Aaron Cowan did some testing and they didn't fair well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Originally Posted By SBR300BLK: There's a brand that makes pistol red dots in England of all places, they look pretty nice but can't recall the name. With you on avoiding chinesium on duty weapons if possible. ETA: Shield Sights. Expensive but look nice, oem for some trijicon models apparently. https://www.shieldpsd.com/ All red dots made in Great Britain per their website Q and A. Anyone have experience with this brand? By all accounts they're pretty fragile. Aaron Cowan did some testing and they didn't fair well. The Brits aren't known for their abilities with anything electric. Picked up an M18 yesterday. Going to put another RMR on it via the Bobro engineering RMR plate. I am also going to delete the manual safety and install an Apex enhanced trigger kit because for some reason this M18 has the worst P320 trigger I've ever felt.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 6:05:07 PM EDT
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I am a recent convert. Havent shot it yet, but too much dry fire. I apparently have a slight astigmatism, but it doesnt bother me too much, especially if I'm not looking for it. I need more RMR.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:18:47 PM EDT
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https://imgur.com/gallery/g6KQCDK
First foray into the 2011 world, red dot and 1911 trigger are peak performance |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:49:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hburn21: https://imgur.com/gallery/g6KQCDK First foray into the 2011 world, red dot and 1911 trigger are peak performance  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:27:10 PM EDT
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Appreciate ot
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:27:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/113559/711446A8-E0EB-467B-83FB-266956ECBAA6_jpe-1377527.JPG Appreciate it bud |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 4:56:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:29:19 PM EDT
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RMR on a gun is a game changer.
Have done two of my Glocks and the G20 is next.  |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 5:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCPatrolAR: Pizza with red dots. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53285/65C4B72C-5411-435E-9934-8513ACF0DE0C_jpe-1377636.JPG I used to have an Elite II (thanks counter strike). Im imagining a dot on that bad boy  |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:01:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: triple6]
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I should try one of these..
whats the cheapest slide for a gen 4 glock 17? I don't really want to cut mine up until I test out the waters figure I can get a cheap slide to accept an rmr and sell if it doesn't work out. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:36:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triple6: I should try one of these.. whats the cheapest slide for a gen 4 glock 17? I don't really want to cut mine up until I test out the waters figure I can get a cheap slide to accept an rmr and sell if it doesn't work out. just get a dovetail mount if you want to kick the tires |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 12:26:13 PM EDT
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Thanks
Looks like I could try the dovetail mounts for around $100 or so |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 2:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triple6: Thanks Looks like I could try the dovetail mounts for around $100 or so |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:06:06 PM EDT
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haha
I only am going to dip one toe into the water first so dovetail or I'll build up a cheap slide and then sell off if I like it |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 8:26:11 PM EDT
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It's always interesting to see the resistance to red dots on pistols. Were people like this with rifles?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:25:51 PM EDT
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Can't remember if I posted these.
Duty gun, gen4 Glock 31.  new off duty gun, Glock 45 
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Posted: 4/28/2020 8:20:16 AM EDT
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Keep in mind that you'll be learning a new skill without the aid of co-witness sights. I found that with a quick presentation, the gun was pointed exactly where it needed to be, but my head was in the wrong position. I heard one instructor say that it's not necessarily better or worse, just different, and you need to train with it. It's taken awhile, but I'm finally getting it down. I used the Outerimpact mount for my M&P pro. Nice thing about that one is that it accepts multiple sight footptints.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2020 11:47:37 PM EDT
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I am in still the testing phase, I have a DDP on a Sig M17. Right now, I am still too slow on the first target, but am getting faster on follow up shots. I'm torn on what I think right now. I do love a red dot on my shoulder fired weapons, so there is that.
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Posted: 5/1/2020 5:46:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By harpua: I am in still the testing phase, I have a DDP on a Sig M17. Right now, I am still too slow on the first target, but am getting faster on follow up shots. I'm torn on what I think right now. I do love a red dot on my shoulder fired weapons, so there is that. One thing that helped me, was as soon as the gun clears the holster, drop your elbow bringing the pistol horizontal. While extending the pistol out and focusing on your target, you will see the front sight in your peripheral vision. As you’re extending your arm(s) the dot will come into your vision. One thing a red dot sight did, was really clean up my draw. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2020 3:43:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: It's always interesting to see the resistance to red dots on pistols. Were people like this with rifles? Yes. What's old is new again |
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