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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:47:41 PM EDT
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.44 AMP cartridge next to a 10mm Norma: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/First_50__1024x683_-304634.jpg View Quote |
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[#6]
A friend of mine has his on preorder, it will be his 23rd Automag.
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As I understand it, dealer for the standard production runs will be $3,500 - $4,000.
That's about the going price for an original "shooter" grade Automag. Being these are CNC billet the quality/durability should be considerably better. |
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Aren't those essentially a cut down .308 case? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.44 AMP cartridge next to a 10mm Norma: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/First_50__1024x683_-304634.jpg https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e66d0768-3c00-48af-a683-9fdde2efc7d9 |
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They’re making them again? I have originals in .357 and .44 AMP. Neat.
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What, no .41 Automag? View Quote There is a cartridge based off of the 45 Win mag called the 40 KMP which would be dimensionally a lot more stable during loading BUT I don't know a whole lot about the cartridge. |
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How much are those? I googled them and it said they were like $5,600?!?!?!?!? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Good for you. That has to be one of the sexiest pistols ever, if not the one.
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[#18]
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Good for you. That has to be one of the sexiest pistols ever, if not the one. View Quote Largely it started as an experiment to push the design in several directions as a "period of discovery". After that, the design was largely finalized and the manufacturing methods and such were decided on, the prints finalized,etc. The current gun is a blend of old and new design and manufacturing techniques. There will be more developments and advancements along the way but the design right now is definitely ready for production. The first 50 or so guns are sort of the "proof run" of the gun, getting everything smoothed out and set up right so those guns will be very well scrutinized. To give you an idea of the tolerancing involved, the machined finish on the upper and the bolt components is so good that they can be properly and aesthetically high polished correctly on a single polishing pass with no leveling of the surface finish necessary. |
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I wish they'd be more clear about things on their webpage. Am I correct that they are doing three versions of the gun?
The Founder Version, which you bought, which is the Classic with an ~8 in barrel. The Classic Version, which is based on the original plans with a ~6 in barrel. And finally, the Auto Mag X, which resembles the old gun, but incorporates modern design/machining choices. |
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Does anybody here that owns an Automag or has handled or shot one also own a Wildey or handled or shot one of those too? How do they compare to each other? One of these two are somewhere on my want list.
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[#22]
This is so cool. I considered pre-ordering actually.
Really looking forward to a good review. |
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Does anybody here that owns an Automag or has handled or shot one also own a Wildey or handled or shot one of those too? How do they compare to each other? One of these two are somewhere on my want list. View Quote I haven't owned an Auto Mag. |
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Does anybody here that owns an Automag or has handled or shot one also own a Wildey or handled or shot one of those too? How do they compare to each other? One of these two are somewhere on my want list. View Quote Congrats OP I am quite jealous! Enjoy the new in good health Sir!! |
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I wish they'd be more clear about things on their webpage. Am I correct that they are doing three versions of the gun? The Founder Version, which you bought, which is the Classic with an ~8 in barrel. The Classic Version, which is based on the original plans with a ~6 in barrel. And finally, the Auto Mag X, which resembles the old gun, but incorporates modern design/machining choices. View Quote The Founder's Edition is just the first production run, in effect. The Classic Edition will be a run of 6.5 inch regular production but I am not sure if the Classic Edition is limited and then will just go to "regular" production. I am not sure. Once regular production gets underway, as far as I know you will be able to order either 8.5 or 6.5 inch guns as is your preference. The Auto Mag X just didn't pan out for various engineering reasons. Unfortunate, because I really liked the operating system pertaining to the bolt locking system but there were other things about it that were just not viable. |
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Does anybody here that owns an Automag or has handled or shot one also own a Wildey or handled or shot one of those too? How do they compare to each other? One of these two are somewhere on my want list. View Quote The AutoMag is the only true magnum AutoLoader that is actually fairly easy to handle for the average bear. They are still BIG. I can take the safety OFF on handed but have to use my weak hand to actuate it to the ON position. That being said, I have to do that wih a Colt Woodsman, too....but that is more of an ergonomic design issue. The AutoMag is just....big. |
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Yes, I own Wildey’s in all four calibers. Wildey is back as well. I think the AM is a classier gun but the Wildey in original trim is a better gun. Just my opion for what it’s worth.
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CPLAisdnSzo/RyI9T5RyNRI/AAAAAAAAAog/Ro9oqXPQnLw/s400/01.jpg Sweet hand cannon View Quote |
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The website doesn't get a lot of updating, per se. Just "added to". The Founder's Edition is just the first production run, in effect. The Classic Edition will be a run of 6.5 inch regular production but I am not sure if the Classic Edition is limited and then will just go to "regular" production. I am not sure. Once regular production gets underway, as far as I know you will be able to order either 8.5 or 6.5 inch guns as is your preference. The Auto Mag X just didn't pan out for various engineering reasons. Unfortunate, because I really liked the operating system pertaining to the bolt locking system but there were other things about it that were just not viable. View Quote |
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The Wildey guns are VERY beefy guns. They were originally going to handle a double column magazine of 9mm Magnum but that never panned out...the grip frame was never changed and it's quite the moose. Comparable to a .50 AE Desert Eagle..... The AutoMag is the only true magnum AutoLoader that is actually fairly easy to handle for the average bear. They are still BIG. I can take the safety OFF on handed but have to use my weak hand to actuate it to the ON position. That being said, I have to do that wih a Colt Woodsman, too....but that is more of an ergonomic design issue. The AutoMag is just....big. View Quote |
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That is one hell of a handgun. Very nice.
I would love to shoot one someday. |
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This is correct. The Desert Eagle is just.....HUGE, even though it is a single stack. With Hogue rubber grips and the long frame meant to handle everything from .357 magnum to .50 AE....it is a moose. The Wildey is not quite as "long" in the frame as the D.E. BUT it is really wide. So where it gains in length it really loses in width. The AutoMag is a long grip frame BUT is very narrow due to the fact that it uses a rimless case, therefor the magazine doesn't have to be as wide as the made for the rimmed .44 Remington magnum cases used in the Desert Eagle or the massive rebated rimmed .50 AE. Here is a pic of me with my original TDE AutoMag. Note that the first few hundred AutoMags are using ORIGINAL frames from the 1970s ( long story ) so they will be the exact same as what you see in this picture as far as frame size goes. I am 5 foot 10 and weigh about 190. My hands are exactly average...as is my build.... In the pic ( from about 2004) I am about 175. I can handle a Smith 29 one handed with ease and have done so since I was about 10 or 11 because I grew "UP" super fast. I fact, I am over an inch shorter than when I was 17. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23042/91136.JPG Handling the AutoMag live fire with moderate loads is no harder...why in fact it is EASIER than running a .44 Remington Magnum revolver like a 29 or an Anaconda and DEFINITELY easier on the wrist than a Ruger Blackhawk....though the Blackhawk is the easiest to handle with milder loads due to grip size. If you are 5' 9" or above with normal hands....you can do the AutoMag...easy. View Quote |
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My problem with the Wildey is the adjustable gas system. If you take the gun down the clean it, you have to re-adjust the gas system afterwards. Other than that, it was pretty nice. The de-cocking safety is nice. The Wildey has a slide that moves--as opposed to the Auto Mag, which is like the Ruger Mark II in which you have a bolt carrier or whatever you want to call it, that moves inside a fixed housing. For hunting, I count the fixed housing as an advantage, because with winter gloves on, I'll cause a malfunction on a Desert Eagle every time. I haven't owned an Auto Mag. View Quote It is easier than trying to count clicks but that also works most of the time. |
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I can relate to everything you've said so it looks like you've sold me on an Automag. That's a 6 1/2" barrel in that picture, right? The one Dirty Harry used was the 8 1/2"? Have you handled both different lengths, how do they balance, any preference? I have a S&W 629 in a 6", and I love the balance of that. But then again, I have a S&W 617 in 22LR with a 6" barrel, and the balance is terrible, it it too muzzle heavy. View Quote I don't know how the 8.5 is gonna feel but I got the 8.5 because I want to have as much volume as possible to burn powders like 296, H100 and such. I have both a Model 617 AND a 17 with 6 inch barrels. They are a bit hefty.....but they sure shoot nice. I also have a 4 inch Model 17. The 4 inch has a much better balance. |
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[#46]
That’s awesome!
Hope you’re stocked up on .308 cases you can cut down to make ammo for it |
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[#50]
That's awesome! Congrats!
When is delivery expected? Or projected. |
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