Posted: 3/31/2017 3:07:02 PM EDT
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I'm toying with the idea of plunking down for a 19L setup. It's going to run me about $1100 for a barrel, slide, RMR, spring/guide rod and spacer cover. I do not currently have a handgun with an optic on it, so that would be a notable change, but other than that, is there that much of a perceived benefit to running the longer slide/barrel combo on a compact frame? It seems cool and while I have some money to blow, $1100 still in my possession is also pretty cool.
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Um you mean a 17? 19L=17?  19XL = 34 slide on a 19 frame. Lone Wolf page |
| Yeah, that idea crossed my mind, but I don't think you're really saving that much. A 17 MOS from Buds is $600 plus another $550 for the RMR and the work to either chop the frame myself (and screw it up) or pay someone to do it. Kinda comes out as a wash at best, right? |
Here are three of my Glocks that I have upgraded. Left... Glock 41 MOS Gen4 45acp, Glock Gen3 9mm With a ZEV slide, Right...Glock17 Gen4 MOS 9mm. Vortex red dot on two of them RMR in the middle. KKM treaded barrels on two of them. You can do this yourself by going on Youtube and see how to do this "if you know how to turn a screw" :)
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Yeah, that idea crossed my mind, but I don't think you're really saving that much. A 17 MOS from Buds is $600 plus another $550 for the RMR and the work to either chop the frame myself (and screw it up) or pay someone to do it. Kinda comes out as a wash at best, right? |
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No now you'll have two guns instead of just an extra G19 slide. ~~~~~~~~~ The majority of what I was posting about though was the experience of shooting a long slide 19. Is it a noticeable upgrade or difference from a standard length? I'm intrigued by the idea and just wanted some feedback on the platform as I know it's been done before. |
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That is true, but the argument was that it would save a lot of money which I don't think is true. I'd just be getting more for my money. ~~~~~~~~~ The majority of what I was posting about though was the experience of shooting a long slide 19. Is it a noticeable upgrade or difference from a standard length? I'm intrigued by the idea and just wanted some feedback on the platform as I know it's been done before. The oft spoken advantage of a longer barrel is the sight radius aiding in precision. Well, a red dot is going to eliminate the need for that. I am not a Roland Special koolaid drinker, but the pro/con here is the theory that they are supposed to fill. The barrel is longer and with the brake, you're increasing muzzle control without sacrificing velocity, but with the carry/portability of the shorter grip and lighter slide. |
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I'll go against the tides here and recommend that you do it. I build a 23L and my 19L will be finished tomorrow just as soon as the USPS drops off my new barrel. I also have a grip chopped 17, which is nice and a low cost stopgap, but the L just appeals to me more aesthetically.
Chopped 17 
23L (have a slide adapter out for matching Cerakote) 
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| There's no point in going through all that trouble to make a "19L" if you're just going to put an RMR on it. The main advantage to the longer slide/barrel is the added sight radius...there's no sight radius with a red dot. Just get a 19 MOS if you want to try an RMR. |
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There's no point in going through all that trouble to make a "19L" if you're just going to put an RMR on it. The main advantage to the longer slide/barrel is the added sight radius...there's no sight radius with a red dot. Just get a 19 MOS if you want to try an RMR. if you're doing an RMR don't bother with a longer slide. |
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I'd chop a $300 PD trade in G22 and add a red dot mount to the rear sight cut or buy one of the back plate RMR mounts before I had another slide cut. Huge price savings, but not as tier 1 or as permanent.
I just purchased 2 $130 frames from Combatarmory.com and waiting on them to show up at my FFL so I can make a G23L from one of them with a spare G22 top end I have in my parts box |
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I'll go against the tides here and recommend that you do it. I build a 23L and my 19L will be finished tomorrow just as soon as the USPS drops off my new barrel. I also have a grip chopped 17, which is nice and a low cost stopgap, but the L just appeals to me more aesthetically. Chopped 17 http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa200/jake94134/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2294_zpscfudcmg3.jpg 23L (have a slide adapter out for matching Cerakote) http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa200/jake94134/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2321_zpsygqfzvhb.jpg Pic rail on the G23L frame, have it cut or was it an 80% that has a pic rail???? |
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I don't own a G19, but have owned a G17 and G34. I traded my G34 for an RMR which I had installed on my G17.
1) I never noticed a difference between my accuracy with either using iron sights. Maybe a USPSA grand master can notice the difference, but I can't. 2) With an RMR, it is completely irrelevant. That extra slide length going from a G19 to G17 means almost nothing with irons, and should have zero impact with an RMR. 3) The choice of pistol should be completely dependent on grip comfort and concealability. I am most comfortable with the G17 grip, and have no major issues concealing it, so that's what I did. I'd just get a G19 or G17 as the base for the project, and not do anything funky, but that's just me. 
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Would not it be cheaper to just cut a G17 to take G19 mags? $500 vs $1100? |
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I don't own a G19, but have owned a G17 and G34. I traded my G34 for an RMR which I had installed on my G17. 1) I never noticed a difference between my accuracy with either using iron sights. Maybe a USPSA grand master can notice the difference, but I can't. 2) With an RMR, it is completely irrelevant. That extra slide length going from a G19 to G17 means almost nothing with irons, and should have zero impact with an RMR. 3) The choice of pistol should be completely dependent on grip comfort and concealability. I am most comfortable with the G17 grip, and have no major issues concealing it, so that's what I did. I'd just get a G19 or G17 as the base for the project, and not do anything funky, but that's just me. Quoted:
I don't own a G19, but have owned a G17 and G34. I traded my G34 for an RMR which I had installed on my G17. 1) I never noticed a difference between my accuracy with either using iron sights. Maybe a USPSA grand master can notice the difference, but I can't. 2) With an RMR, it is completely irrelevant. That extra slide length going from a G19 to G17 means almost nothing with irons, and should have zero impact with an RMR. 3) The choice of pistol should be completely dependent on grip comfort and concealability. I am most comfortable with the G17 grip, and have no major issues concealing it, so that's what I did. I'd just get a G19 or G17 as the base for the project, and not do anything funky, but that's just me. Quoted:
There's no point in going through all that trouble to make a "19L" if you're just going to put an RMR on it. The main advantage to the longer slide/barrel is the added sight radius...there's no sight radius with a red dot. Just get a 19 MOS if you want to try an RMR. |
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The 17 length top end makes a difference to me. I shoot 'em measurably better than a 19. I don't get along with the 19 grip either. A chopped 17 is my favorite Glock |
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