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10/12/2015 1:20:31 PM EDT
The wife is looking for a small 380 she can use with a flashbang bra holster for those times she can't carry anything else.

What small 308 is 100% dependable, sized right to be used in a bra holster and has a semi decent to decent trigger?
10/12/2015 1:40:17 PM EDT
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In for interest. My wife needs one, too.
10/12/2015 1:41:02 PM EDT
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Beretta has voluntarily updated the Pico, particularly the recoil & trigger springs. It's nice that they actually listened...

There is now a single recoil spring instead of inner/outer which makes slingshotting the slide easy, and the new trigger spring lightens the trigger pull.



It's the thinnest .380 out there, has real sights, locks open on an empty mag, and you can find them for $300 or less with 2 mags.
10/12/2015 1:51:39 PM EDT
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My Smith and Wesson .380 Bodyguard works great.

Be sure you get a NEW one.
Mine is serial number KBU55xx

Early models had some teething problems.
10/12/2015 1:54:43 PM EDT
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10/12/2015 2:02:23 PM EDT
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Don't forget the recoil on the really light .380"s.  Also on the small .308"s.  
10/12/2015 4:28:24 PM EDT
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Is your wife able to handle the recoil of a smaller framed pistol? We went through similar issues-had a LCP,P3At,S&W Bodyguard and now a Glock 42. The G42 might be a little big for your carry needs but in a IWB holster it is the perfect pistol for her. I must admit, it has little recoil, but again it is a bigger pistol.
10/12/2015 4:50:40 PM EDT
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Kahr Pm 380 I think its the best in class
10/12/2015 5:01:09 PM EDT
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This.  It is by far the best.  Shoots more like a full on race gun than a pocket .380.  Accurate, reliable, great trigger, real sights, slide lock, etc.  It's also smaller and lighter than the Beretta Pico.
10/12/2015 5:51:40 PM EDT
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I have both an LCP and the Sig P238.  Both have functioned 100% with FMJ which is all that I run in a 380.  The P238 has a decent trigger and very good (night) sights.  The Sig is way more accurate than it should be for such a small gun.
10/12/2015 10:28:44 PM EDT
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^^^ i also have the LCP and P238, and the SIG is hands down a better gun. I mean wayyy better gun.
10/13/2015 6:11:47 AM EDT
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Just picked up a new BodyGaurd without the laser, and im loving it for pocket carry. Shoots very well, and feels like a bigger gun in my hands than it really is. Has actual sights, locks back on empty, and has manual safety if that is something that makes a difference for her preference. The trigger pull is relatively heavy, but smooth and feels pretty good for DOA.
10/13/2015 6:15:51 AM EDT
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Yeah, that 308 SBR kicks like a shotgun
10/13/2015 7:25:10 AM EDT
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M&P bodyguard with the stock trigger. I have one with the short stroke trigger kit and I would be weary of it being carried in a ta-at rig.
10/13/2015 7:58:54 AM EDT
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This.  It is by far the best.  Shoots more like a full on race gun than a pocket .380.  Accurate, reliable, great trigger, real sights, slide lock, etc.  It's also smaller and lighter than the Beretta Pico.
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This.  It is by far the best.  Shoots more like a full on race gun than a pocket .380.  Accurate, reliable, great trigger, real sights, slide lock, etc.  It's also smaller and lighter than the Beretta Pico.


and by race gun you mean Kahr's patented mile long double action with equally long reset? For twice the price, you get less than a 5mm and 2 ounce difference vs the Pico, but still not as slim. The cheaper C model only has one mag, no polygonal rifling, and a slide that looks like it was engraved by a 12 year old, not to mention the forums are full of people crying about the mags ejecting themselves. Do you really want to guess if your carry gun's mag is seated when you need it most?
10/13/2015 8:03:25 AM EDT
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+1 for the Kahr CW380/PM380.  Always worth the consideration.
10/13/2015 8:15:09 AM EDT
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and by race gun you mean Kahr's patented mile long double action with equally long reset? For twice the price, you get less than a 5mm and 2 ounce difference vs the Pico, but still not as slim. The cheaper C model only has one mag, no polygonal rifling, and a slide that looks like it was engraved by a 12 year old, not to mention the forums are full of people crying about the mags ejecting themselves. Do you really want to guess if your carry gun's mag is seated when you need it most?
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Kahr Pm 380 I think its the best in class


This.  It is by far the best.  Shoots more like a full on race gun than a pocket .380.  Accurate, reliable, great trigger, real sights, slide lock, etc.  It's also smaller and lighter than the Beretta Pico.


and by race gun you mean Kahr's patented mile long double action with equally long reset? For twice the price, you get less than a 5mm and 2 ounce difference vs the Pico, but still not as slim. The cheaper C model only has one mag, no polygonal rifling, and a slide that looks like it was engraved by a 12 year old, not to mention the forums are full of people crying about the mags ejecting themselves. Do you really want to guess if your carry gun's mag is seated when you need it most?


3/8" is a mile?  The trigger pull is more like a very short, very smooth DAO revolver.  If you're trying to compare it to a Glock or 1911, it's not even close.  If you compare it to other pocket guns, especially the venerable J frames, it's miles ahead.  

As for saying it shoots like a race gun, I was referring to the recoil characteristics and accuracy.  My personal sample size of one has never had any issues with reliability or the mags ejecting.  Of course, that's only one, so take it for what it's worth.

It's .025" thicker than the Pico, but lighter and shorter in both height and length.
10/13/2015 9:12:49 AM EDT
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This one or the Bodyguard.  The G42 has to get some look also.
10/13/2015 9:18:29 AM EDT
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Ruger LCP / end thread

I paid $270ish out the door for mine 3 years ago, I think it's still the smallest and lightest .380 on the market. No safeties, no gay magazine disconnect or loaded chamber indicator or tall sights to get snagged, just loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong trigger pull followed with a reliable pop and snap.
10/13/2015 9:19:55 AM EDT
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Ruger LCP / end thread

I paid $270ish out the door for mine 3 years ago, I think it's still the smallest and lightest .380 on the market. No safeties, no gay magazine disconnect or loaded chamber indicator to get snagged, just loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong trigger pull followed with a reliable snap and pop.
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On sale at sportsmans right now for $279