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7/5/2015 11:51:21 AM EDT
I'm thinking about getting a trijicon RMR sight for my Glock 19 or my H&K VP9. Who runs them and what are the pro's and cons. Also how do you have them mounted ?
7/5/2015 12:30:24 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd also like to get some info. What is everyone's opinion on a milled slide vs a dovetail rear sight mount?
7/6/2015 9:41:25 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a M&P9 I had milled by ATEI.  And have been using it for CC for about a year. I took a class with it early on too. There is a learning curve to bring the gun up and find the dot quickly. Once up its faster than irons. With the sight being milled into the gun I have no reservations about using it as a fulcrum point to rack the slide off a table, eye socket, belt, or good ole sling shoting. Not so sure I would do that with a dove tail mount. That and the milled way co witness with the irons. I'm sold so far. And I would only use the Trijicon RMR.
7/6/2015 11:33:04 AM EDT
[#3]
My buddy sent his older S&W M&P .45 auto to a custom smith to have his slide milled for an Eotech small sight.
What was interesting is that the smith installed a different front sight and a rear iron sight IN FRONT OF THE EOTECH SIGHT.
This iron rear sight is located in a dovetail right behind the ejection port.

As above, it takes a little learning curve to "find" the red dot.  It seems to me that with the M&P and Eotech combination  you have to tilt your wrist upward more and at first you tend to tilt the muzzle down and can't find the dot.
Once you "educate" your wrist the red dot picks up very fast.

Once used to it my buddy who has aging eyes, ran a shooting test.
Using the iron sights and shooting reasonably fast at 25 yards he can keep about 50% shots on target.
With the dot sight he keeps 95% Plus on target and can shoot faster.
The gunsmith supplied a custom slide cover to cover the milled area if he ever wants to take the Eotech off.

He carries the .45 M&P as a CCW and has no problems other then a slight alteration to a Kydex holster to clear the sight.

Strictly to me, the Eotech seems to be a bit larger then I would want for a CCW, but he owns two or three other Eotech's for rifles and is used to them.
If you have bad eyes, the front sight is nothing but a blur and unless you wear reading glasses or prescription shooting glasses you just can't see the iron sights for defense shooting.  
Since you can't always wear close vision glasses, a red dot for a CCW pistol makes a LOT of sense, and actually speeds up accurate shooting.

7/6/2015 7:46:38 PM EDT
[#4]
There are some companies putting the rear sight in front of the optic..its personal preference.  Are you SURE he put a Eotech on a hand gun? That's a big ass optic. i think your mistaken.....you mean RMR, Delta Point, or Docter. Those are milled onto a slide.
I have supresser height sights on my gun. They co witness perfectly.
7/9/2015 6:09:45 PM EDT
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There are some companies putting the rear sight in front of the optic..its personal preference.  Are you SURE he put a Eotech on a hand gun? That's a big ass optic. i think your mistaken.....you mean RMR, Delta Point, or Docter. Those are milled onto a slide.
I have supresser height sights on my gun. They co witness perfectly.
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He could be talking about the EoTech MRDS.