Posted: 8/4/2014 6:28:08 PM EDT
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Bear with me for a sec while I lay this out...I'm trying to decide which caliber to get when I get my new M&P Pro. I have an XD 40 and have about 2,500 rounds. I just picked up a Shield in 9mm since I thought it handled better than the 40 version and it's going to be my primary carry and probably not so much a range gun. I'm going to buy an M&P Pro but now I'm u sure whether I should get a 9 or 40. I'm also about to out a deposit down Ina Wilson Combat. The thing is,I don't want to have three different calibers to store and inventory. I have another 6K rounds in AR rounds.
Do I get the new M&P in 40 to leverage the rounds I already have and just keep a small amount of 9mm? But then what cal do I get the Wilson? Do I dump the XD and all the ammo and just get the Pro in 9mm and just pick up my 9 inventory? Hell, I was even thinking about ordering the Wilson Combat in 9mm and just having everything in 9mm. I certainly don't three handgun calibers. I like to keep about 2-3k rounds of ammo at all times. |
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Learn to reload get the gear to do so accumulate 20 or so calibers. Never worry about the next supply crisis by stockpiling 50000 primers and fifty or pounds of powder and you are set! :)
That is said only half jokingly - ever shooter ( who is not wealthy) who wants to shoot long term should be reloading On pistol calibers I am "down" to only the following calibers: 22 rimfire 25 auto 32 auto 7.62 tokarev 38 special 357 magnum 9mm 45 auto 45 colt If stuck limitin calibers I would have trouble reducing below this minimum |
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There is nothing wrong with having 9mm, .40s&w, and .45acp. I actually encourage it.
If you're going to get a 1911, it should be in .45acp. Other calibers can come later, but you may as well get the gun John Moses Browning designed in the caliber John Moses Browning developed. .40s&w is the native caliber for the M&P line. I have a M&P 40 Pro Series with a 5" barrel, and I like it quite a bit. Variety is the spice of life and all that. |
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Buy the M&P40, then you can swap the barrel and mag for the 9mm version and you have both. The M&P40 can be made to shoot 9mm but a M&P9 cannot be made to shoot .40S&W. I have the M&P40, it's probably the lightest shooting .40S&W on the market.
We keep rifles and handguns in all the main calibers...comes in handy when ammo is scarce. |
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Buy the M&P40, then you can swap the barrel and mag for the 9mm version and you have both. The M&P40 can be made to shoot 9mm but a M&P9 cannot be made to shoot .40S&W. I have the M&P40, it's probably the lightest shooting .40S&W on the market. We keep rifles and handguns in all the main calibers...comes in handy when ammo is scarce. That a very good point about switching barrels. I think I want to convert to all 9mm because with the Wilson Combat coming, I just don't want to amass three calibers and in the back of my mind, I thinks it's blasphemy to have a 1911 in anything but 45. On the other hand, I don't want to get caught up in traditional models of thought so I'd be open to the Wilson being chambered in 9mm. I guess also, I'm just not married to the XD anymore which is why I'm willing to dump it all and go 9mm and 45. At the same tine, it costs me nothing to have it and keep all the ammo. I don't know, I just like things streamlined I guess and can't decide what to do. Now I'm thinking get the 40 and the 9mm conversion for the M&P. |
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I consolidated to just a few makes bulk purchases easier as well as tracking inventory
I only buy and shoot 9mm 5.56x45 7.62x39 12 gauge .22lr .308/7.62 nato I would get rid of the 7.62x39 but ill wait until the next panic so I can make a profit off of gun stuff for once |
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Why would anyone get rid of 7.62x39? Buy it cheap and stack it deep while you can.
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I did that with rifle and pistol... 5.56, 7.62x51, 9mm, 38 spl and 45 acp. Got rid of 40, 357 sig, 7.62x39, 5.7 x 28. Granted, I still have a few rounds for an SKS and a Bulgy Makarov... It also makes gun buying easier because I know what my parameters are. Your join date and username are a strange combo... |
| I started off with the plan to stay with one caliber. Everything I got was 9mm. Then I had need of something more powerful, so I added 10mm. Then I was looking for something cheaper and got a .22lr (right before ammogeddon, so other than the couple of little boxes o' 50 I've been able to beg/borrow/trade for it's been unused...). Sigh. Best laid plans and all... |
| I started with .40 back in '08 with the first crisis when .40 was a little more available than 9mm. I started reloading .40 not soon after. I picked up my first 9mm early this year because my girly hands couldn't handle a small framed .40 for CCW. Like the .40 I began reloading 9mm. A firearm in .357 recently came into my possession and more than likely I'll start reloading for that as well. |
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Diversity man! Never understood the idea of limiting yourself to one pistol or rifle cartridge.
Pistol calibers I presently shoot and reload: 9x19mm 38 Short Colt (Could do 38 Long Colt too but don't have the brass) 38 Special 357 Mag 40 S&W 10mm Auto 45 ACP (Could do 45 GAP too if I was that silly) The funny part is all three of my semi-autos are in the same caliber all the rest are revolvers. 
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I had a government provided 40 along with over 2000 government provided Gold Dots I'd accumulated over the years.
Resigned, turned in the 40, sold the bullets. Couldn't be happier. I'm running: 9 mm - Primary 45 - for my 1911 which is purely a range gun 5.56 - Primary 22LR - Everyone needs a 22LR ... |
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Why is it every time someone talks about pistol caliber consolidation or similar all the 40S&W haters have to hop in and tell everyone that they got rid of or never saw the point to 40S&W? You sound like you're personally hurt that some people choose 9mm over 40. Hey Man, shoot what you want. Just because I sold my 40 doesn't mean I hate it; just prefer the others more. |
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I don't hate 40 at all... I got a bunch of it. But I got the shield for carry...my first 9...because it was a very noticeable handling difference from the 40. It just felt better. I'm going to be using that until I get my ultimate carry gun, a Wilson Combat Professional Lightweight.
In the meantime, I plan on buying the M&P Pro...maybe the Costa version for a fun range gun. It all comes down to this... Have less of more calibers... or a lot more of less. |
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Cartridge proliferation is a consideration, because of the economics of the situation....can't afford everything....at least most of us can't.
But you may be being a little too tight here, because there are many good and useful pistol chamberings. The only thing I can see wrong with having a 9mm, a .40 and a .45ACP is that .22lr seems to be missing....really got to have a .22lr. For my part, I take excess proliferation seriously and I haven't managed to limit handgun to less than the following: .22lr .32ACP 7.62x25 Tok 9mm .38 Special .357 Mag .44 Special .44 Mag .45ACP 
Okay, if I abso-freakin-lutely HAD to eliminate a couple of chamberings, I guess I could live without the .32ACP and the Tok...but why would I WANT to?? 
ETA: You should really consider learning to reload. And also, there's no real reason to stockpile large amounts of ammo for marginal calibers. I prolly only have about 250 rounds each of .32ACP and 7.62x25 Tok in my inventory (mostly hand loaded, of course )
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Might as well just have a little bit of each. Or you could sell the XD40 and your ammo to fund other guns/calibers. At the same time you could keep the .40 and get a .45, that's what I did. I like the 9mm okay, but I like the .40 better since it's generally the same size gun but with a bigger, heavier bullet. My two favorites are the .40 and .45 and that's what I've consolidated to, but you have to decide what you want. You can get 1911's in .40 cal too, but that's up to you. I had a 10mm 1911 one time that wasn't reliable at all, but all the .45 1911's I've owned have shot great. You could just keep some 9mm around for when you want to carry your Shield. I have a CW380 that disappears in the pocket, which is why I bought it, but I don't particularly like the 380 Auto. I'll keep SOME ammo around for it since I have the CW380, but I 'm not going to keep 2-3K rounds of it, a few hundred for a gun that gets carried 100X more than it gets shot is fine by me. There's many options but you have to decide what you want and what you don't absolutely NEED. If I was in your situation, since you have so much .40 (much like myself), I'd keep the .40 for sure. Really question whether you want to drop big $$ on a .45 since you'll have to stock ammo for it, but the .45 is great. I'd either keep the 9mm Shield but don't force yourself to buy 2-3K rounds of 9mm or sell the 9mm Shield and get the .40 version if you're serious about keeping calibers/cartridges to a minimum. I have just .40 and .45 and I'm happy as ever, with those two you don't need anything else. In general the .45 uses a little bit larger platform than the .40, but with both of them, they're essentially the largest calibers for their frame size, which is why I like them so much I guess. |
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People often own different calibers that serve different purposes. If you're juggling between 3 different calibers that serve the exact same purpose, then maybe you should "unify" as you say.
On the other hand, I don't know how you make it through the day juggling 3 different calibers like that. What with all the buying and stacking of ammo as well as loading clips, magazines and speedloaders, you must be exhausted at days end! Three calibers is nothing to juggle around. |
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I don't hate 40 at all... I got a bunch of it. But I got the shield for carry...my first 9...because it was a very noticeable handling difference from the 40. It just felt better. I'm going to be using that until I get my ultimate carry gun, a Wilson Combat Professional Lightweight. In the meantime, I plan on buying the M&P Pro...maybe the Costa version for a fun range gun. It all comes down to this... Have less of more calibers... or a lot more of less. Whether its less of more calibers or more of less calibers its still roughly the same amount of ammunition. Variety is the spice of life. As other have stated spend the money on a reloading setup. Even an expensive progressive press pays for itself relatively quickly. When I bought my Dillion 650XL back in 2006 I calculated that it would take ~16,000rds of 180gr CMJ 40S&W (the only thing I was initially reloading) to break even on the press. The press is now approaching 50,000rds through it and I am loading several different pistol cartridges. 45ACP FMJ is presently costing me ~$9.50 a box to reload and I can load 6-8 boxes and hour with that press. 38 Special/38 Short Colt 160gr coated LRN is only ~$6.50 a box. |
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I'm seperating calibers for self defense from calibers I have for "collecting".
SD are 9 and 45. I have a lot of other ones as well for handguns, but those are for fun, not serious social work. 32 ACP 7.62 Tok. 9mm Mak. 357 mag 38 special 38 S&W 44 mag 45 colt 455 Webley and of course .22 LR.
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I don't hate 40 at all... I got a bunch of it. But I got the shield for carry...my first 9...because it was a very noticeable handling difference from the 40. It just felt better. I'm going to be using that until I get my ultimate carry gun, a Wilson Combat Professional Lightweight. In the meantime, I plan on buying the M&P Pro...maybe the Costa version for a fun range gun. It all comes down to this... Have less of more calibers... or a lot more of less. I wouldn't buy a 9mm M&P Id go for the 40S&W I've seen too many M&P 9mm that shoot 6-8 MOA !! I shoot the 9mm and 40S&W And favor the 40S&W 180 loads if the 9mm is using +P or +P+. I think the 9mm +P and +P+ have the same recoil as the180gr loads and have less performance! Now using standard pressure 124gr is soft shooting in a compact pistol like the P30. I would buy today a 9mm HK VP9 9mm PPQ I prefer TDA myself. |
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I wouldn't buy a 9mm M&P Id go for the 40S&W I've seen too many M&P 9mm that shoot 6-8 MOA !! I shoot the 9mm and 40S&W And favor the 40S&W 180 loads if the 9mm is using +P or +P+. I think the 9mm +P and +P+ have the same recoil as the180gr loads and have less performance! Now using standard pressure 124gr is soft shooting in a compact pistol like the P30. I would buy today a 9mm HK VP9 9mm PPQ I prefer TDA myself. Quoted:
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I don't hate 40 at all... I got a bunch of it. But I got the shield for carry...my first 9...because it was a very noticeable handling difference from the 40. It just felt better. I'm going to be using that until I get my ultimate carry gun, a Wilson Combat Professional Lightweight. In the meantime, I plan on buying the M&P Pro...maybe the Costa version for a fun range gun. It all comes down to this... Have less of more calibers... or a lot more of less. I wouldn't buy a 9mm M&P Id go for the 40S&W I've seen too many M&P 9mm that shoot 6-8 MOA !! I shoot the 9mm and 40S&W And favor the 40S&W 180 loads if the 9mm is using +P or +P+. I think the 9mm +P and +P+ have the same recoil as the180gr loads and have less performance! Now using standard pressure 124gr is soft shooting in a compact pistol like the P30. I would buy today a 9mm HK VP9 9mm PPQ I prefer TDA myself. New production M&P's dont have any accuracy issues. Gonna have to let this go at some point! |
| So I'm looking at the M&P 40 Pro with the idea of getting 9mm barrel like we've talked about here. Looking on the S&W site, they list the 40 as striker fire double action and the 9mm as just striker fire. Is there really a difference between the two or just the way the site lists it? |
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I wouldn't buy a 9mm M&P Id go for the 40S&W I've seen too many M&P 9mm that shoot 6-8 MOA !! I shoot the 9mm and 40S&W And favor the 40S&W 180 loads if the 9mm is using +P or +P+. I think the 9mm +P and +P+ have the same recoil as the180gr loads and have less performance! Now using standard pressure 124gr is soft shooting in a compact pistol like the P30. I would buy today a 9mm HK VP9 9mm PPQ I prefer TDA myself. Quoted:
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I don't hate 40 at all... I got a bunch of it. But I got the shield for carry...my first 9...because it was a very noticeable handling difference from the 40. It just felt better. I'm going to be using that until I get my ultimate carry gun, a Wilson Combat Professional Lightweight. In the meantime, I plan on buying the M&P Pro...maybe the Costa version for a fun range gun. It all comes down to this... Have less of more calibers... or a lot more of less. I wouldn't buy a 9mm M&P Id go for the 40S&W I've seen too many M&P 9mm that shoot 6-8 MOA !! I shoot the 9mm and 40S&W And favor the 40S&W 180 loads if the 9mm is using +P or +P+. I think the 9mm +P and +P+ have the same recoil as the180gr loads and have less performance! Now using standard pressure 124gr is soft shooting in a compact pistol like the P30. I would buy today a 9mm HK VP9 9mm PPQ I prefer TDA myself. I'd be thrilled if I could shoot a 6" group with a handgun at 100 yards. |
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So I'm looking at the M&P 40 Pro with the idea of getting 9mm barrel like we've talked about here. Looking on the S&W site, they list the 40 as striker fire double action and the 9mm as just striker fire. Is there really a difference between the two or just the way the site lists it? Any info on this? I can't imagine the actions would be different between the 9 and 40 I'm just want to be 100%. I know technically it acts as double action with the slide doing 99% of the cocking. I emailed S&W yesterday but haven't heard back yet. |
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I got rid of all my 40 stuff a few years ago. Never regretted it and never looked back. 9mm and 45 ACP cover any base I want to cover. Much truth to this. I've narrowed to 9mm, .45, .38 special/.357 mag and .22lr. If its not in one of those calibers, I'm not buying it (unless its a WWII collectible...). Having fewer calibers around has made it easier for ammo orders and making use of limited ammo storage space. |