Posted: 6/29/2014 10:16:07 AM EDT
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Went on a second date with a young lady to the indoor shooting range where we shot a few of her pistols (I got beat bad... real bad) and now I'm thinking it's time to add a pistol to the collection, but I need some direction on which route to take.
Above anything else, I'm very concerned about the safety mechanism. I hate the grip and trigger safetys and am looking for a something that has a manual switch or button That said, I'm comfortable paying upwards of 700 to 800 for something in a 9mm or .40... I'm taking a CPL class next month but doubt I'll actually carry that much, just good piece of mind. Probably mostly use it to practice my form and the basics because apparently I suck something awful at handguns. Thanks |
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I'm confused? First your taking a CPL class but don't think your going to carry often... or were you taking about carrying you 7-800 dollar pistol that often?
Next you want to spend 7-800 on a 9 or 40... that's subjective to what you shoot best. What have you shot? Why spend 7-800 if you find yourself liking a $500 Glock? Or a $1300 1911 Might be best to just get a .22 pistol... to practice with. Forgiving, but still takes the basics to shoot well. |
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I'm confused? First your taking a CPL class but don't think your going to carry often... or were you taking about carrying you 7-800 dollar pistol that often? Next you want to spend 7-800 on a 9 or 40... that's subjective to what you shoot best. What have you shot? Why spend 7-800 if you find yourself liking a $500 Glock? Or a $1300 1911 Might be best to just get a .22 pistol... to practice with. Forgiving, but still takes the basics to shoot well. I'm taking the CPL class for peace of mind. Don't plan on carrying "that often" but will still occasionally carry a gun I'm willing to spend $7-800 on in a 9 or 40. Not interested in a .22, I have too many already it's too hard to find ammunition. |
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I'm taking the CPL class for peace of mind. Don't plan on carrying "that often" but will still occasionally carry a gun I'm willing to spend $7-800 on in a 9 or 40. Not interested in a .22, I have too many already it's too hard to find ammunition. Quoted:
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I'm confused? First your taking a CPL class but don't think your going to carry often... or were you taking about carrying you 7-800 dollar pistol that often? Next you want to spend 7-800 on a 9 or 40... that's subjective to what you shoot best. What have you shot? Why spend 7-800 if you find yourself liking a $500 Glock? Or a $1300 1911 Might be best to just get a .22 pistol... to practice with. Forgiving, but still takes the basics to shoot well. I'm taking the CPL class for peace of mind. Don't plan on carrying "that often" but will still occasionally carry a gun I'm willing to spend $7-800 on in a 9 or 40. Not interested in a .22, I have too many already it's too hard to find ammunition. So go find a 9 or 40 for the 7-800 and be done with it... not sure what you're asking for help with. Do you need a list of gun manufacturers? Are you in the frame of mind that a certain 7-800 dollar pistol will make you a better pistol shooter? Collector value since you won't be carrying it often? I think your missing the idea of giving as much info to get actual helpful answers. |
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Glock 19
Hate to sound like a broken record, but do it. I own and shoot (or have owned and shot) almost everything and I firmly believe that the G19 is the answer for the "do everything" pistol - Carry, home protection, and range. I own 2 of them. I have other more expensive pistols, but my G19s are the last i'd ever sell. |
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So go find a 9 or 40 for the 7-800 and be done with it... not sure what you're asking for help with. Do you need a list of gun manufacturers? Are you in the frame of mind that a certain 7-800 dollar pistol will make you a better pistol shooter? Collector value since you won't be carrying it often? I think your missing the idea of giving as much info to get actual helpful answers. Quoted:
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I'm confused? First your taking a CPL class but don't think your going to carry often... or were you taking about carrying you 7-800 dollar pistol that often? Next you want to spend 7-800 on a 9 or 40... that's subjective to what you shoot best. What have you shot? Why spend 7-800 if you find yourself liking a $500 Glock? Or a $1300 1911 Might be best to just get a .22 pistol... to practice with. Forgiving, but still takes the basics to shoot well. I'm taking the CPL class for peace of mind. Don't plan on carrying "that often" but will still occasionally carry a gun I'm willing to spend $7-800 on in a 9 or 40. Not interested in a .22, I have too many already it's too hard to find ammunition. So go find a 9 or 40 for the 7-800 and be done with it... not sure what you're asking for help with. Do you need a list of gun manufacturers? Are you in the frame of mind that a certain 7-800 dollar pistol will make you a better pistol shooter? Collector value since you won't be carrying it often? I think your missing the idea of giving as much info to get actual helpful answers. Did the misses hide your favorite panties this morning or something? Made it pretty clear that's what I was looking for, a few guns I could check out and look up. Go be a dick elsewhere troll. |
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Ok, seeing as the OP said up front that grip and trigger safety mechanisms are out, I'll suggest a CZ 75B, or one if the Canick clones of a CZ, a Sig of some sort (too may models that all look the same to me), or on the high end an HK.
All in 9mm. Test drive them and pick the one you shoot the best. End of story. |
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/snip Did the misses hide your favorite panties this morning or something? Made it pretty clear that's what I was looking for, a few guns I could check out and look up. Go be a dick elsewhere troll. Yep, ya got me... So basically your safety dislikes rule out Glocks and 1911's... eta and most Sig's(as well as the price). So, try a Springfield XD, S&W M&P, Ruger P series... Good luck with your search. |
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Went on a second date with a young lady to the indoor shooting range where we shot a few of her pistols (I got beat bad... real bad) and now I'm thinking it's time to add a pistol to the collection, but I need some direction on which route to take. Above anything else, I'm very concerned about the safety mechanism. I hate the grip and trigger safetys and am looking for a something that has a manual switch or button That said, I'm comfortable paying upwards of 700 to 800 for something in a 9mm or .40... I'm taking a CPL class next month but doubt I'll actually carry that much, just good piece of mind. Probably mostly use it to practice my form and the basics because apparently I suck something awful at handguns. Thanks Go to a LGS and finger bang all the handguns until you find one that feels good in your hand. After that see if there is a local range where you can rent said gun so you can see i you like the way it shoots. You'd be better off spending 400-500 on either a Glock or S&W M&P 9/40 and spending the rest on ammo for practice. Also if you can, see how the weapon feels concealed so you know if it will be comfortable to carry or not. Seriously though, you've been a member since 2005 and you don't own a handgun? Plus you let a girl out shoot you? |
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A .22lr target pistol is the correct answer. If you want to practice your form and get the fundamentals down, that's how you do it. .22lr ammo is inconvenient to find, but it's not impossible.
For the centerfire, within your constraints, I'd suggest a CZ 75 (or one of its variants), a Beretta 92, or a 3rd gen S&W like the 5906. You should be able to buy a Ruger MkIII or 22/45 and one of the above 9mms for your budget. |
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Glock 19 Hate to sound like a broken record, but do it. I own and shoot (or have owned and shot) almost everything and I firmly believe that the G19 is the answer for the "do everything" pistol - Carry, home protection, and range. I own 2 of them. I have other more expensive pistols, but my G19s are the last i'd ever sell. ^^ G19!! |
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Glock 19, OK shut 'er down boys. JK
Try to shoot everything you can first, it gets expensive fast buying guns and deciding you don't like them. Then buying another.....and so on. Especially once you factor in ammo, and holsters, and mags, etc. You might not have to spend 7-800 on the pistol it's self, to get one you like. What did you shoot at the range? |
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HK USP or go home.  With the OPs requirements..... Here |
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Sig P226 if you want a full sized gun or P229 if you want something a little smaller. They might be a bit outside your listed budget, but they're great guns and meet your safety requirements of essentially not having one.
M&P 9 is another great pistol, it does have a trigger safety, but I'm not really sure why that would be a deal breaker. It's simply there to make sure the gun only fires when your finger is on the trigger, which is exactly where your finger will be when firing. It's not something you need to train for |
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A .22lr target pistol is the correct answer. If you want to practice your form and get the fundamentals down, that's how you do it. .22lr ammo is inconvenient to find, but it's not impossible. For the centerfire, within your constraints, I'd suggest a CZ 75 (or one of its variants), a Beretta 92, or a 3rd gen S&W like the 5906. You should be able to buy a Ruger MkIII or 22/45 and one of the above 9mms for your budget. I can get behind this +/- HK |
| You're a beginning pistol shooter. I strongly advise you to stay away from 40 S&W caliber pistols. Why? Because the fast, sharp, and comparatively heavy recoil impulse is much more difficult to learn how to control well. Stay with 9 x 19mm, and you'll have a much easier time of it. |
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Went on a second date with a young lady to the indoor shooting range where we shot a few of her pistols (I got beat bad... real bad) and now I'm thinking it's time to add a pistol to the collection, but I need some direction on which route to take. Above anything else, I'm very concerned about the safety mechanism. I hate the grip and trigger safetys and am looking for a something that has a manual switch or button That said, I'm comfortable paying upwards of 700 to 800 for something in a 9mm or .40... I'm taking a CPL class next month but doubt I'll actually carry that much, just good piece of mind. Probably mostly use it to practice my form and the basics because apparently I suck something awful at handguns. Thanks Glock 19 |
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Plastic......S&W M&P 9 with the optional thumb safety. Otherwise, SIG P226 Mk 25; double action/single action or P226 Elite SAO (single action only, thumb safety). Gotta go with this. I'd personally suggest a G19/G17 but the trigger safety lever drops them out. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Based on your criteria you're eliminating some of the currently most popular pistols. Glocks, XDs and M&Ps all have the trigger 'safety'. Most Sigs don't have any 'safety'. You can get some of the M&Ps with a secondary safety but it will still have the trigger thing. All the afore mentioned guns are very popular. For range and competition I like the Sigs. For concealed carry I like the M&P compact (small & light). Although not all guns are exactly equal most will be fairly accurate in the right hands. As with everything else in life if you want to be good at it you'll need to develop the appropriate skills for the gun you select.
Despite a lot of factors it basically comes down to two things, grip and trigger pull. Firm grip and smooth pull. So start practicing. For the range: M&P9, XDM, Sig 226 or 229 Elite For ccw: M&P9 compact, XD sub-compact or XDS, Sig 224 A lot of people like the Glock. I once qualified with the G17 and it was flawless. Both the G19s I have tried, including the one I owned, had reliability issues so I can't recommend them. I don't have any familiarity with their numerous other models, but several are very popular so they can't all be bad. JMO The suggestion to go to a range and rent a couple is good advise. It's saved me from buying a couple of guns that I didn't need. Good luck. |
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Went on a second date with a young lady to the indoor shooting range where we shot a few of her pistols (I got beat bad... real bad) and now I'm thinking it's time to add a pistol to the collection, but I need some direction on which route to take. Above anything else, I'm very concerned about the safety mechanism. I hate the grip and trigger safetys and am looking for a something that has a manual switch or button That said, I'm comfortable paying upwards of 700 to 800 for something in a 9mm or .40... I'm taking a CPL class next month but doubt I'll actually carry that much, just good piece of mind. Probably mostly use it to practice my form and the basics because apparently I suck something awful at handguns. Thanks I mean no disrespect in this post, but from what I read I would strongly suggest first going through a multi-day training class for handguns. Any reputable company will have various handguns to lend or rent. Since it appears you have little handgun shooting experience, you likely don't even know what type of system will suit you best. After a 2 or 3 day class and 1,000+ rounds later you not only will have a very good idea of what works best for you but your knowledge, competence, confidence & capability will be absolutely transformed. You will come out the other side a better person. You don't have your state listed, but if you did I'm sure members here would have recommendations for classes. For example, in Ohio TDI (Tactical Defense Institute) offers a handgun 1,2,3 class that lasts three days and requires 1,800 rds. It is an investment that I can't recommend highly enough and do so often to those around me. Perfect for new shooters as well as those who want to do a refresh. As a bonus, at the completion of these classes, you now have also completed the CCW requirement for Ohio. You will have the expense of the cost of classes and ammo, but it honestly is an investment in yourself. And some of the money you have allocated for a handgun purchase can go toward the investment. You can easily get a competent handgun - safety or no - for around $400 such as an M&P or Ruger SR9. Good luck and hope this helps. Enjoy the journey of becoming a better shooter! |