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6/7/2014 9:26:09 PM EDT
Greetings,

I've been searching for a .45 ACP that ISN"T polymer. Can anyone suggest a few quality ones?

I have no preference for domestic or foreign. Capacity is important, I realize that most .45s don't come in high cap, but I can deal with that.

Looking for personal defense and just plain old shooting.

Thanks for your help.
6/7/2014 9:57:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Glock 21SF
Glock 30SF
Sig P220
Sig P227

EDIT:  your title and content contradict each other, so I answered for both.
6/7/2014 10:18:33 PM EDT
[#2]
S&W 625
6/7/2014 10:24:45 PM EDT
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You joined in Aug of 2010, and this is your first post? Welcome, I guess.

It's hard to beat the industry support of the 1911.

If you want something different, consider a S&W 4506 or Sig 220.
6/7/2014 10:53:45 PM EDT
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Sig P227 is your best bet
6/8/2014 12:47:11 AM EDT
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The Star Firestar is rarely talked about but is an exceptional handgun.  The inverted rails make is slick.  The controls are nice.

It's not exciting but it's just a nice little gun.
6/8/2014 1:05:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Para double stack 1911 is what you want.
6/8/2014 1:17:02 AM EDT
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I have no experience with para, but have never heard much good about them.
OP, if you want a double stack 1911 look at STI
6/8/2014 2:07:45 AM EDT
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Id be looking at SIG with those criteria.
6/8/2014 3:14:44 AM EDT
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Sig probably has the best overall features that fit that criteria. I'm personally not a big sig fan. A double stack 1911 would be more appealing to me. The prices vary quite a bit one those. An RIA would be fairly cost effective, but their base model lacks a lot of features I would want, especially good sights.
6/8/2014 3:28:35 AM EDT
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sounds like sig 227 is what you are looking for.
6/8/2014 3:53:04 AM EDT
[#11]
A quality 1911 and 10 round wilson mags.
6/8/2014 4:05:04 AM EDT
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CZ 97 - covers your criteria completely!
6/8/2014 4:23:06 AM EDT
[#13]
SIG p227
6/8/2014 4:55:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Sig P227, 1911.

If you get over your problem with polymer, look no further than the G21 Gen 4.
6/8/2014 5:07:34 AM EDT
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1. P227 or other Sig offerings
2. CZ-97b



I already own a sig p226 , kind of sorry I waited so long to buy a sig
I had made buying into some internet crap that new sigs made in USA were crap -
I should have known better .

I really like the look and feel CZ-USA , but I have yet to own one
6/8/2014 7:05:54 AM EDT
[#16]
Sig 227
Sig 220
1911
6/8/2014 8:07:55 AM EDT
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I have the Sig 220 and CZ97B. Sig mags are 8 rounds but you can get 10 rounders which extend below the grip. CZ is 10 rounds standard. I feel they booth shoot about the same. Only bad thing about either is the size of the CZ. It is huge at 38 OZ but the Sig is not small either at 30 OZ.
6/8/2014 8:58:59 AM EDT
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I'll zig to everyone's zag and go with a Rock Island double stack 1911.

Cheaper than all the others, well made and it has excellent customer support.
6/8/2014 9:45:40 AM EDT
[#19]
1911 Or either the P220, or P227 are the answer to the .45 question.
6/8/2014 9:52:51 AM EDT
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I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.
6/8/2014 10:28:57 AM EDT
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If you want to stay with a steel frame, you are looking at a double-stack 1911, options from STI, Para-Ord, Rock Island Armory, even some old Springfield Armory guns.

If you are willing to go aluminum, Sig Sauer has their new P227 out.

Other than that, you are looking at polymer for hi-caps, XD-45, M&P 45, FN, Glock 21.
6/8/2014 10:50:05 AM EDT
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SIG.
6/8/2014 12:00:02 PM EDT
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I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.
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I'll zig to everyone's zag and go with a Rock Island double stack 1911.

Cheaper than all the others, well made and it has excellent customer support.


I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.


MecGar mags and Para Ordnance Canada mags both work in the RI, but only the MG mags will drop free.

This isn't surprising since RI 1911s come with MecGar mags from the factory.
6/8/2014 12:19:51 PM EDT
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Sig 227 or CZ-97 if you want a "hi-cap". 1911 or Sig p220 if you want a single stack.
6/8/2014 12:58:39 PM EDT
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The 97B meets all your specs and is one hell of a gun
6/8/2014 1:43:51 PM EDT
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S&W 4506.
6/8/2014 1:58:24 PM EDT
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Steel Witness is an option also...
6/8/2014 2:51:06 PM EDT
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.
6/8/2014 3:43:09 PM EDT
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Really ???
6/8/2014 4:07:37 PM EDT
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.

Mine was a package 45/22 for $399 way back when I bought it. The 22 slide
6/8/2014 4:07:47 PM EDT
[#31]
The third gen smiths are awesome.

You can find them like new, but not new.
6/8/2014 4:21:31 PM EDT
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.


Been thinking of a 10mm something , I know that the Glocks are GTG , but I think the weight of the witness or a 1911 would soak up some felt recoil
6/8/2014 6:42:22 PM EDT
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MecGar mags and Para Ordnance Canada mags both work in the RI, but only the MG mags will drop free.

This isn't surprising since RI 1911s come with MecGar mags from the factory.
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I'll zig to everyone's zag and go with a Rock Island double stack 1911.

Cheaper than all the others, well made and it has excellent customer support.


I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.


MecGar mags and Para Ordnance Canada mags both work in the RI, but only the MG mags will drop free.

This isn't surprising since RI 1911s come with MecGar mags from the factory.

para p14 mags drop free out of my full-railed ria double stack.
6/9/2014 4:03:13 AM EDT
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P220 SAO
No decocker.
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I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.
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I'll zig to everyone's zag and go with a Rock Island double stack 1911.

Cheaper than all the others, well made and it has excellent customer support.


I would like to try one of those out, which mag pattern do they use?

Barring the RIA, the CZ 97b is a sold gun. Too large for some though.
The Sig offerings are high quality but I don't really like decockers... So not for me.

6/9/2014 9:56:56 AM EDT
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I've been looking at the M&P.  It has a 10 round mag.
6/9/2014 10:19:15 AM EDT
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The 97B meets all your specs and is one hell of a gun
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+1

The 97B meets all your specs and is one hell of a gun



+2 - and it is not as "huge" as folks claim;  it might feel that way at 1st (ie - if you only hold it at a gunshop), but once you actually pull the trigger - as in with live ammo - its not that big at all.  

It shoots great, is very reliable, and as you'd expect from a CZ product, it is very accurate.
6/9/2014 4:55:17 PM EDT
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Been thinking of a 10mm something , I know that the Glocks are GTG , but I think the weight of the witness or a 1911 would soak up some felt recoil
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I always forget about those.

Solid gun for the price. I have a 40 that has been flawless.
Seriously pondering a 10mm version.


Been thinking of a 10mm something , I know that the Glocks are GTG , but I think the weight of the witness or a 1911 would soak up some felt recoil

The G 20 is a very soft shooting 10 mm. However it is huge.
6/9/2014 9:45:22 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the great replies, I don't have any issues with the polymer handguns. It's just that it seems that the majority of what's available is polymer. I am sort of a traditionalist in that I feel a .45 should resemble a 1911. (Steel)

Thanks again.
6/10/2014 3:17:57 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the great replies, I don't have any issues with the polymer handguns. It's just that it seems that the majority of what's available is polymer. I am sort of a traditionalist in that I feel a .45 should resemble a 1911. (Steel)

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You just answered your own question...get a 1911 and be a happy man.
6/10/2014 4:10:00 AM EDT
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You just answered your own question...get a 1911 and be a happy man.
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Thanks for all the great replies, I don't have any issues with the polymer handguns. It's just that it seems that the majority of what's available is polymer. I am sort of a traditionalist in that I feel a .45 should resemble a 1911. (Steel)

Thanks again.


You just answered your own question...get a 1911 and be a happy man.



Yeah why are we not talking 1911?

Get a blued Colt Commander
6/10/2014 4:26:18 AM EDT
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6/10/2014 5:02:07 AM EDT
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6/10/2014 6:16:39 AM EDT
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1911
Cz
Khar