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5/16/2014 9:10:53 AM EDT
Hey everyone,

So I picked up a shield a few months ago and finally had some time to take it to the range...I noticed that every round had a pretty significant chunk taken out of the primer itself. Visualization of the firing pin didn't reveal anything and I tried two different brands of ammo, both with the same result...So, my question is, what are your thoughts on this? I've never noticed any of my other SA's doing this, including a full size M&P.



Thanks,
CBM
5/16/2014 9:32:55 AM EDT
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Hey everyone,

So I picked up a shield a few months ago and finally had some time to take it to the range...I noticed that every round had a pretty significant chunk taken out of the primer itself. Visualization of the firing pin didn't reveal anything and I tried two different brands of ammo, both with the same result...So, my question is, what are your thoughts on this? I've never noticed any of my other SA's doing this, including a full size M&P.

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Thanks,
CBM
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Looks scary to me--I'd send a pic to S&W.
5/16/2014 2:05:18 PM EDT
[#2]
What does your breech face look like?
5/16/2014 7:20:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks to me like you have some serious striker drag. If you push the striker out the breech face does it stick? I'd pull out the striker and check for junk in the channel.

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5/17/2014 5:25:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Take the firing pin out, inspect it, clear and clean out the firing pin channel, put it back together and carry on... I had a G27 that did the same thing. Although it had a myriad of other problems but a failure to fire or popped primers was not one of them...
5/18/2014 5:43:53 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a Shield in 9 and 40 and they both do that to the primers.  I have not observed any ill-effects and they go bang every time I pull the trigger.
5/19/2014 5:58:01 AM EDT
[#6]
The striker is dragging across the primer after the round has been fired.

I don't believe that presents a problem but I would clean the striker channel.
7/14/2014 10:32:17 AM EDT
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I have a Shield in 9 and 40 and they both do that to the primers.  I have not observed any ill-effects and they go bang every time I pull the trigger.
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Hmm good to know. Sorry to be pulling this thread out of the graveyard, I haven't been in a position to follow up on the issue. I have contacted S&W support and am awaiting a response. It's good to know that I'm not the only one seeing this, but at the same time, as others have stated, I don't see how this could be normal.

Haven't seen anything out of the ordinary on cleaning/inspection of the firing pin.
7/14/2014 11:56:04 AM EDT
[#8]
My wife's Shield didn't do this but I did completely strip all the parts from slide and receiver and clean them before firing. There was a lot of heavy grease in it and you will need to re-install striker assembly bone dry NO LUBE.
Your striker safety could also be filled with lube or burr and be slowing down the striker as it lets it get past the safety plunger.

Her Shield does however bulged brass on +P loads or hot loads with thin brass, think BrassMax or fiocci.
Does not however bulge with Hornady 135gr +P critical duty or Winchester Q4364 147Gr rangers, probably since its thicker better quality brass.
7/14/2014 2:50:09 PM EDT
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I have a Shield in 9 and 40 and they both do that to the primers. I have not observed any ill-effects and they go bang every time I pull the trigger.

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Same as glock
7/14/2014 2:53:09 PM EDT
[#10]
My 9mm Shield does it, and so does a 9mm Shield that an acquaintance has. I checked the firing pin, and the breech face for any source of the gouging, but I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
7/14/2014 8:02:47 PM EDT
[#11]
I haven't noticed it on my Shield, but I'm going to check some brass tonight and see if I missed anything.
7/15/2014 5:51:39 AM EDT
[#12]
Every M&P does that to a lesser extent.

I would check the firing pin and clean the channel but it is probably "normal" for the shield.
7/15/2014 9:58:32 AM EDT
[#13]
I just received this response from S&W:

"Dear Customer,

That is normal for the M&P series, the mark is made during the unlocking of the action.

If further assistance is required please reply accordingly.

Sincerely,

Paul G"

There we have it...It is normal, however odd it may be. Oddly, my full-size M&P doesn't do this.
7/16/2014 10:06:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Both my full size and Shield do this to some degree. Both leave swelled up "teardrop" shapes where the firing pin hole in the breach face is shaped that way.
7/16/2014 10:48:03 AM EDT
[#15]
My Glock's and Kahr PM9's do it as well.