Posted: 4/6/2014 4:49:48 PM EDT
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I'll start off by saying I'm a big .40 fan, got my first one in 1993 a Sig P229. I have long since abandoned the DA/SA platform. I know it works for a lot of people just not for me.
.40 I currently own are. Glock 35, 22, 22c, 23 and 27. M&P. PRO and VTAC Walther PPQ-M2 Beretta 9000s(I know, but it's a fun conversation piece) What I don't have and want is a metal frame .40. So no DA/SA, I had a CZ in.40 and did not like it, love them in 9mm have three but not in .40. I like my 1911s in .45, so not looking for one in .40, also dislike slide mounted safeties aka Beretta PX4, 92 etc. One model I was interested in was the Lionheart guns, but they only come in 9 mm. So I'm open to suggestions, I know I cancelled out a lot of choices but I'm confident there's still a lot of good options out there. It won't be to fulfill a certain need, just to round out the collection. Full size or compact but no subcompacts, have all the carry guns I need. |
| I have no idea, but they DID make a 226. Also, if you are looking at a SAO, you might want to look at STI. IDK how much you want to spend, but I believe they have some hi cap .40's based on the 1911 that are designed for competition and range use (not saying they couldn't be used for home defense) that would probably be awesome to own. |
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Beretta 96D? Alloy frame, no safety, fairly light double-action pull. I used to have a P16-40, and still have a Browning Hi-power in 40, but those both have safeties. Sig P250 is fun too, but it's a polymer frame, which you are ruling out. OP doesn't want slide mounted controls. |
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Quoted: Often thought about a 10mm, adding another caliber to the mix has always held me back. Currently shoot and reload for .45, .40, 9mm, .357 and .38 so the thought of adding another has held me back. |
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I'm sorry, but don't you use the same dies/ bullets for 10mm and .40? Quoted:
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Often thought about a 10mm, adding another caliber to the mix has always held me back. Currently shoot and reload for .45, .40, 9mm, .357 and .38 so the thought of adding another has held me back. Yes, but acquiring the brass would be the issue. I already stock large pistol primers. A .40 High Power would be worth looking into, I do like my 9mm browning. Have never shot the .40 version. |
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Beretta 96D? Alloy frame, no safety, fairly light double-action pull. I used to have a P16-40, and still have a Browning Hi-power in 40, but those both have safeties. Sig P250 is fun too, but it's a polymer frame, which you are ruling out. OP doesn't want slide mounted controls. Name a single one of those that has any slide mounted controls... 
Beretta 96 "D" is for Double action only, there are NO controls on the slide. It is completely smooth. 
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Or one of the original .40 S&W guns http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/6ca300b2-229e-4b82-9227-7655903f6aac_zpsad0fddef.jpg I got this one for $250. It's an old Brinks Security gun. CDNN has them like new for under $400. Quoted:
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If you like 40's that much you should get a gun that was built around the 40 like the HK USP. Just my .02. Or one of the original .40 S&W guns http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/6ca300b2-229e-4b82-9227-7655903f6aac_zpsad0fddef.jpg I got this one for $250. It's an old Brinks Security gun. CDNN has them like new for under $400. Bingo. Trigger isn't amazing, but it's adequate. The entire gun is built like a tank. |
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Bingo. Trigger isn't amazing, but it's adequate. The entire gun is built like a tank. Quoted:
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If you like 40's that much you should get a gun that was built around the 40 like the HK USP. Just my .02. Or one of the original .40 S&W guns http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/6ca300b2-229e-4b82-9227-7655903f6aac_zpsad0fddef.jpg I got this one for $250. It's an old Brinks Security gun. CDNN has them like new for under $400. Bingo. Trigger isn't amazing, but it's adequate. The entire gun is built like a tank. It's a bit like the DA pull on a Colt revolver. I think it could be refined, but not amazing is an accurate description. |
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If you like 40's that much you should get a gun that was built around the 40 like the HK USP. Just my .02. He's got an M&P40... I have two and they are by far my favorite .40's. The M&P mid-size and full size when shooting 180 grain ammo, (most popular loading anyways); recoil is like a Beretta 92 with Nato ball ammo... |
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It's a bit like the DA pull on a Colt revolver. I think it could be refined, but not amazing is an accurate description. Quoted:
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If you like 40's that much you should get a gun that was built around the 40 like the HK USP. Just my .02. Or one of the original .40 S&W guns http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r714/adamtheduke/6ca300b2-229e-4b82-9227-7655903f6aac_zpsad0fddef.jpg I got this one for $250. It's an old Brinks Security gun. CDNN has them like new for under $400. Bingo. Trigger isn't amazing, but it's adequate. The entire gun is built like a tank. It's a bit like the DA pull on a Colt revolver. I think it could be refined, but not amazing is an accurate description. Agree. Very usable, and give good feedback. Having a trigger that provides tactile "feedback" is indispensable in a DAO handgun IMO. You need it to pull the front sight onto target through your trigger pull. The 3rd Gen S&W DAO autos are indeed kind of like a Colt DA revolver pull. Stacking and telling you exactly what it is doing. Ultimately it is still designed to be a cop service trigger, not a classic Python. (even though those made perfectly good cop guns in their era). But DAO's are always user preference. Many swear by the Beretta DAO or the Sig DAO or the S&W DAO. All largely different feel. The Beretta being the most revolver-like. The Sig is just a lighter DA/SA Sig pull, but DA every time (DAK excepted). The S&W DAO is in it's own category, and would be damn perfect if it was as smooth as Sig's otherwise goofy DAK trigger. I say rediscover the S&W 3rd Gen. 
The only DAO that I truly despise is the older Hk USP DAO. But I have yet to try LEM. Supposedly good, but with a high learning curve. |