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10/4/2013 11:45:23 AM EDT
Go please. For realizability, warmth, and cleanliness.

Umc
Blazer brass
Blazer aluminum
Wolf brass
Wolf whatever
Ultramax
American eagle
Wwb
Winchester in a white box (not sure if value packs and others are the same ammo)
S&B
Fiocchi
Any others?
10/4/2013 11:52:41 AM EDT
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Go please. For realizability, warmth, and cleanliness.

Umc low powered 9mm doesn't fully cycle in my 9mm AR15s
Blazer brass
Blazer aluminum people seem to hate it but I've never had problems.
Wolf brass
Wolf whatever OK stuff but usually dirty, sooty.
Ultramax
American eagle
Wwb Good stuff. I prefer the Winclean versions. They seem snappier, more powerful (cleaner of course. )
Winchester in a white box (not sure if value packs and others are the same ammo)
S&B Good stuff.
Fiocchi Good stuff
Any others?
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Aguila - Mexican. Good stuff too.
10/4/2013 12:50:04 PM EDT
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Winchester White Box in the value pack- Good inexpensive plinking ammo.
Federal Champion- Also good, less experience with it but it's all worked so far.


Going to shoot more federal and maybe some Tulammo coming up. Will update later.
10/4/2013 12:55:00 PM EDT
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You may also want to add GECO to the list to be ranked.
10/4/2013 2:20:30 PM EDT
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what about herters fmj? saw a TON of it in 9mm at the local cabelas for a dollar or two less than blazer brass. also had a lot of tnj there too.
10/4/2013 3:07:15 PM EDT
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RWS. Swiss made match ammo.
10/4/2013 3:12:16 PM EDT
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From your list: Blazer Brass, Aluminum, American Eagle, Fiocchi, are the best of the bunch and I've had good experiences with them. At the bottom of the list, maybe WWB and S&B if I was hard up... Everything else is garbage, especially Ultramax, and UMC. I wouldn't shoot that bull shit trash if it was given to me... And YES, I have experience with it...
10/4/2013 3:41:17 PM EDT
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Most of my expieriance has been with WWB and UMC as that is what is sold locally in my AO. I have very recently found small quantities of blazer brass and aluminum and lots of Tula at wal mart.
It has all gone bang. It has never jambed or failed to fire in my 1911s or glocks.
My preferance for russian ammo is Brown Bear (the green laquered stuff) The green laquer is what the Russians were useing forever, it wasn't untill recently that they started selling the grey polymer shit because some Amercans were getting stuck cases and thouth it was the laquer melting. This was around 2005. The laquer was not the problem. It is a problem inherent to steel case ammo that it allows fowling to build up in the chamber because it doesn't expand to see the end of the case while fireing. You just need to clean your chamber real well.
The reason I prefer the laquer is because the grey stuff starts rusting real quick. Just this morning I was picking up spent cases that I had shot last night and they were already rusting from being outside over night. I imagine it would rust in your gun is you live in a humid place. I've never seen laquer rust unless it was outside for a LONG time. I've heard that Brown Bear, or all of the Bear line are loaded hotter, to military spec.
When ammo becomes available again I'd like to get more GB ammo.
10/4/2013 8:54:21 PM EDT
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I think that is reboxed Tula.
10/4/2013 9:12:37 PM EDT
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what about herters fmj? saw a TON of it in 9mm at the local cabelas for a dollar or two less than blazer brass. also had a lot of tnj there too.


I think that is reboxed Tula.

The steel is Tula, the brass is mostly s&b I've shot a few thousand without complaint.
10/4/2013 9:16:38 PM EDT
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Ultramax is at the bottom of your list, IMHO

nasty junk


10/5/2013 6:21:57 AM EDT
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Umc... in pistols it's reliable but somewhat underpowered
Blazer brass ....Of the list, this is my favorite to practice with
Blazer aluminum
Wolf brass
Wolf whatever
Ultramax
American eagle ...Also reliable
Wwb ..Reliable, but dirty
Winchester in a white box (not sure if value packs and others are the same ammo)
S&B
Fiocchi...No problems here


My experience listed above
10/5/2013 7:32:08 AM EDT
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Umc... Never a problem
Blazer brass ....Never a problem
Blazer aluminum...Never a problem
Wolf brass...I refuse to use wolf ammo
Wolf whatever...see above
Ultramax....I don't shoot reloads
American eagle ...Never a problem
Wwb ..Never a problem
S&B....never a problem but the red sealant can gunk up a gun
Fiocchi...Never a problem

For me I'll buy most anything. Whatever is the cheapest in bulk.
10/5/2013 7:57:58 AM EDT
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Umc
Blazer brass I've had good luck with it.
Blazer aluminum I've had good luck with it. And I have shot a lot of this stuff in carbines
Wolf brass
Wolf whatever
Ultramax It's been bottom of the barrel crap for me
American eagle Worked fine for me, decent stuff
Wwb The 9mm has been great. I had four rounds out of 200 of the 45 that wouldn't chamber.
Winchester in a white box (not sure if value packs and others are the same ammo)
S&B Very good
Fiocchi  Very good
Herter's brass - Very good also
10/5/2013 1:15:38 PM EDT
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Herter's steel case is basically Wolf (maybe Tula?) that has been re-branded by Cabela's.  (Herter's is a Cabela's house brand)
10/5/2013 1:19:17 PM EDT
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The steel is Tula, the brass is mostly s&b I've shot a few thousand without complaint.
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what about herters fmj? saw a TON of it in 9mm at the local cabelas for a dollar or two less than blazer brass. also had a lot of tnj there too.


I think that is reboxed Tula.

The steel is Tula, the brass is mostly s&b I've shot a few thousand without complaint.

I have a box of Herter's 9mm that is Blazer aluminum case with blue polymer coated FMJ.
Shoots fine .
10/5/2013 2:31:23 PM EDT
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I've heard that there are really only 2 arsenals in Russia that make all the steel ammo. Anyone know any info on that?
10/5/2013 8:50:05 PM EDT
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I have a box of Herter's 9mm that is Blazer aluminum case with blue polymer coated FMJ.
Shoots fine .
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what about herters fmj? saw a TON of it in 9mm at the local cabelas for a dollar or two less than blazer brass. also had a lot of tnj there too.


I think that is reboxed Tula.

The steel is Tula, the brass is mostly s&b I've shot a few thousand without complaint.

I have a box of Herter's 9mm that is Blazer aluminum case with blue polymer coated FMJ.
Shoots fine .


yea thats their tnj or total nylon jacket. always tons of that stuff at my local cabelas
10/6/2013 12:30:22 PM EDT
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American Eagle...the best IMO
10/6/2013 2:05:53 PM EDT
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Blazer Aluminum is sucktastic.


10/6/2013 3:51:04 PM EDT
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Umc - Not a fan, would buy something else if available.
Blazer brass - Will buy for plinking brass, never had an issue.
Blazer aluminum - Not a fan, would buy something else if available.
Wolf brass
Wolf - Dirty, but never had an issue in 1,000 rounds.
Ultramax
American eagle - Will buy for plinking brass, never had an issue.
Winchester - Will buy for plinking brass, never had an issue.
S&B - Great stuff, not a single jam or issue in 1,000 rounds.
Fiocchi
Aguila - Great stuff, not a single jam or issue in 1,000 rounds.
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I shoot a ton of 9mm in competition.  Aguila and S&B get my vote when I buy.
10/6/2013 4:08:32 PM EDT
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Go please. For realizability, warmth, and cleanliness.

Umc
Blazer brass
Blazer aluminum
Wolf brass
Wolf whatever
Ultramax
American eagle
Wwb
Winchester in a white box (not sure if value packs and others are the same ammo)
S&B
Fiocchi
Any others?
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All target ammo. Not the best stuff. Great for the range.
10/6/2013 5:20:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Add Magtech to the list.
10/7/2013 5:12:28 AM EDT
[#23]
I prefer Federal Bulk Pack.
10/7/2013 5:33:09 PM EDT
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I have a box of Herter's 9mm that is Blazer aluminum case with blue polymer coated FMJ.
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I tried a box of that in 45, shot ok. Will most likely buy again.
10/9/2013 5:04:53 PM EDT
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Tried 38 Spl Magtech.  Some of the dirtiest ammo I ever used.
10/10/2013 5:44:48 PM EDT
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RWS. Swiss made match ammo.
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This is my favorite 9mm range ammo.  I've stacked it deep and buy more when I can find it.
10/12/2013 4:01:05 AM EDT
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WWB is best imho
10/12/2013 9:23:26 AM EDT
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Yes, similar to RWS mentioned below.
10/12/2013 2:19:19 PM EDT
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Depends on the caliber, bullet weight, and the handgun I'm going to shoot it in.

For example, nothing shoots more accurately in my 9mm SIG X Fives than 115 grain Independence FMJ followed closely by 115 grain MagTech, then 124 grain MagTech followed by 115 grain PMC Bronze followed by 115 grain plated bullet Federal White Box.

.45 ACP; 230 grain Lawman FMJ is tops in my P220 Super Match followed by 230 grain PMC Bronze FMJ and Blazer Brass.

My 625-8 PC revolver prefers 230 grain PMC Bronze followed by crappy plated 230 grain bullet Federal White Box.

The E Series 1911TA and P220 Carry like 230 grain Lawman, PMC Bronze and American Eagle in that order.

I've found 230 grain Aguila .45 ACP to be by far, the least accurate and most inconsistant ammunition in any of my guns, even worse than steel case Tulammo bimetal bullet garbage although the various Aguila 9mm and .22LR loadings aren't bad.

I also avoid UMC as well; filthy crap.

Others will disagree.
10/13/2013 4:48:55 AM EDT
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I've shot around three cases of blazer aluminum, mostly 9mm, without any ammo-related problems.

American Eagle and Winchester work, but aren't worth the extra money to me.

"WinClean" has been the absolutely dirtiest ammo I've ever shot. 50 rounds of WinClean left more dirt in my barrel than 250 rounds of Blazer will.

EDIT: "Russian Sporting Ammunition" is the sorriest shit I've ever fired. Bought it at a gunshow, and I got failures to return to battery about every 4th round. It was bad enough that the rest of my squad started chanting "tap rack bang" as soon as I was on-deck at an IDPA match.