Posted: 10/2/2012 5:27:20 PM EDT
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Thinking of a small front pocket pistol for cc. just in case I am confronted and not able to draw my regular carry weapon. ( I.E.- Assailant within 6 feet with weapon drawn. Make it look like I am taking money out of my pocket to follow "orders" from BG and out comes a surprise)
A Derringer in 9mm might work but it's just an idea at this time. Does anybody else carry one and do you think it's effective at 5 or 6 feet ? Thinking of an inexpensive Cobra or equivalent. Any suggestions would be great. I'm not looking for a pocket filling sub-compact. But a small "F.O. you just been owned" type of pistol. 
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I own two, the are fun guns, range toys, and that is it. They weigh about as much as full size loaded with 15rds, they are hard to operate one handed, they are slow to take follow up shots, they are not accurate at all even at short ranges, and the trigger pull is at least 15lbs.
My suggestion is get a real pocket gun if that is what you want, ie. Keltec P3AT, Ruger LCP, or J frame revolver. |
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ONLY if you wear a vest circa 1850's.
What everyone else said..short range, not easy to cock, heavy trigger pull BUT fun, here's mine from my Cowboy Action days; 
American Derringer Co .45 Colt/.410. Practice drawing your firearm should pay bigger dividends however if someone already has the drop on you with a gun you are basically screwed. |
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Deringers are better than a sharp stick I guess... I would get a P238 or J-frame I might take a sharp stick over a derringer. derringers are slow as fuck to get out and cocked. their stupid nub trigger is typically really stiff, and actually hard to get your finger on properly. I've shot about a dozen in my day, and they seem like something that if you didn't have it out first, and already planted in someone's ribcage, with your finger on the trigger, then they were absolutely useless. yeah, innovation and manufacturing, like the j-frame kind of made the derringer something only goofballs carried 50 years ago. I know an older guy that carries a .22WMR derringer. Told him at the range to show me how fast he could shoot someone with it drawing from his pocket, or even if it was already in his hand..... REALLY SLOW on target. Couldn't hit COM 7 yards away even slow fire. Guns don't belong in pockets. Get a Glock 19, a good belt, and a few holster options and be prepared to deal with 99% of shooting incidents that may come your way, or don't, and fool around with silly assed derringers. |
| I believe in the old days they were called "Ear, Nose and Throat" medicine. You had to basically stick it in someone's ear, nose or throat before it would actually hit what you were aiming at and if you're that close a sharp pointy object may just be as good an option. |
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Deringers are better than a sharp stick I guess... I would get a P238 or J-frame I might take a sharp stick over a derringer. derringers are slow as fuck to get out and cocked. their stupid nub trigger is typically really stiff, and actually hard to get your finger on properly. I've shot about a dozen in my day, and they seem like something that if you didn't have it out first, and already planted in someone's ribcage, with your finger on the trigger, then they were absolutely useless. yeah, innovation and manufacturing, like the j-frame kind of made the derringer something only goofballs carried 50 years ago. I know an older guy that carries a .22WMR derringer. Told him at the range to show me how fast he could shoot someone with it drawing from his pocket, or even if it was already in his hand..... REALLY SLOW on target. Couldn't hit COM 7 yards away even slow fire. Guns don't belong in pockets. Get a Glock 19, a good belt, and a few holster options and be prepared to deal with 99% of shooting incidents that may come your way, or don't, and fool around with silly assed derringers. Awesome testimonial. Seriously. If someone still chooses to carry a derringer over a J-Frame... they can't be fixed. Aslo, have you seen how fast and accuratly someone can get a J-Frame out of their pocket? G26? M&P 9c? (I'm pretty quick with my Airweight, and my peroformance with the M&P 9c in certain cargo short pockets is quite comforting.) |
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If size is that critical I'd get a NAA 22 mag revolver. Worst of the worst. See above and get a j frame s&w A J frame is much better, but not even close to Derringer sized. Unlike the Derringers the NAA is a four shot single action with a USEABLE trigger and no manual safety. There is no argument that it's a piss poor choice for a primary, but for a micro bug they are not horrible. And they fit in the front pocket of jeans comfortably. I personally have an LCP which I prefer to either of those. It rides in the back pocket in a pocket holster for just this type of occasion. |
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If size is that critical I'd get a NAA 22 mag revolver. Worst of the worst. See above and get a j frame s&w A J frame is much better, but not even close to Derringer sized. Unlike the Derringers the NAA is a four shot single action with a USEABLE trigger and no manual safety. There is no argument that it's a piss poor choice for a primary, but for a micro bug they are not horrible. And they fit in the front pocket of jeans comfortably. I personally have an LCP which I prefer to either of those. It rides in the back pocket in a pocket holster for just this type of occasion. my NAA holds 5 rounds |
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http://heizerfirearms.com/ under the primise of derringer i would go with this, assuming the consumer model doesnt fall flat on its face in the reliability area im considering this as a BUG/deep carry weapon because of ammo compatibility to my primary (g36). |
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http://heizerfirearms.com/ under the primise of derringer i would go with this, assuming the consumer model doesnt fall flat on its face in the reliability area im considering this as a BUG/deep carry weapon because of ammo compatibility to my primary (g36). Now think really hard about the XDs! Quoted:
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If size is that critical I'd get a NAA 22 mag revolver. Worst of the worst. See above and get a j frame s&w A J frame is much better, but not even close to Derringer sized. Unlike the Derringers the NAA is a four shot single action with a USEABLE trigger and no manual safety. There is no argument that it's a piss poor choice for a primary, but for a micro bug they are not horrible. And they fit in the front pocket of jeans comfortably. I personally have an LCP which I prefer to either of those. It rides in the back pocket in a pocket holster for just this type of occasion. my NAA holds 5 rounds See, It's even 25% better than I said it was! 
It's been about 20 years since I've shot my uncle's. I was close. 
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My NAA is a 4 shot. I don't trust a single action with the hammer down on a live round. I don't trust any of the notches between the chambers. I don't trust the half cock notch.
I do trust it with the hammer completely down on an empty chamber. This means it is indeed a 4 shooter. I don't consider it a serious weapon, though it will push a 40 grain bullet over 900 FPS, and is capable of surprising accuracy some of the time. The gun is actually quite accurate, but the shooter is the weak link. As noted before, it makes a fair contact weapon. Think of it as a 4 shot ice pick. |
| my friend had 1 in .38 & it was worthless wasnt much smaller then a 5 shot 38 like a body gaurd & had a shitty grip, not to mention you you cant hit anything. i wouldnt waste the money on one, my dad also has one in .22mag & i think its fun to shoot but would rather just carry my lcp |
