Posted: 2/25/2010 6:30:21 AM EDT
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What price range are these going for? Are they a decent clone? Are they better than the Argentine FM? What modell Browing are the close to....Mark 1 2...etc.......
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$250 - $300 around here, and starting to nudge up in price. Getting hard to find at $250. I wish I picked one up the several times I fondled them, but I had other guns in my sights at the times and my wallet could only handle the original objective.
Don't know too much about them other than they are not exact copies of the BHP, but most things will be common between the two. I was waiting for someone more knowledgeable to answer, but when I didn't I thought I'd toss that in.  I think if you use the search feature, you will find an answer quick. My knowledge is based upon prior discussions in this forum.
I think the consensus is that the argentine is the closest "copy" followed by the FEG, then the bulgarians. Just based on value, I wouldn't pay more than $350 for one, because you are then only another $150 away from a decent real BHP. But at the $250 - $350 range, why the heck not?!? Cheap, classy, and a great introduction to Single Action semis. |
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The Argentinian Hi-powers are licensed copies so they are basically identical to the FN version.
Parts interchangeability between the older FEG P9M and the Hi-power is essentially 100% as it is again a straight Hi-power clone. I have found the need to do some very minor fitting when using Browning replacement parts in my P9M due to very slight differences in clearances. For example, the hole for the safety is slightly tighter on the P9M. The P9M was first propduced in 1971 and as such it predates the Mk II Hi Power by about 10 years and is basically a Mk I clone. It lacks the ambidextrous safety of the Mk II and the barrel is also not throated to the same degree that it is on the Mk II, but it does have 3 dot sights. It also lacks the firing pin safety found on the Mk III. The only potential negative with the P9M is the humped feedramp intended for FMJ rounds. It is slightly less reliable with hollow points than the straight feedramp on the current MK III Hi-Power. But it is easily modified by a competent gunsmith and or a new barrel will solve the "problem". The more recent FEG PJK-9HP has mods to barrel, linkage and slide stop that significantly reduces parts interchangeability with a Hi-Power. |
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I was born legitimate but my parents divorced 30 years ago, so by your reasoning, that now makes me illegitimate?
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The Argentinian Hi-powers are were licensed copies so they are basically identical to the FN version... That license to manufacture the Hi Power expired more than thirty years ago. It's an issue of semantics regarding "were" versus "are" (and I'll argue 30 year old pistols still "are") but if you find an Argie Hi Power it is still what it always was - a licensed copy of the Hi Power, regardless of whether the license expired after it was manufactured. But feel free to keep the helpful posts coming... |
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I was born legitimate but my parents divorced 30 years ago, so by your reasoning, that now makes me illegitimate?
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The Argentinian Hi-powers are were licensed copies so they are basically identical to the FN version... That license to manufacture the Hi Power expired more than thirty years ago. It's an issue of semantics regarding "were" versus "are" (and I'll argue 30 year old pistols still "are") but if you find an Argie Hi Power it is still what it always was - a licensed copy of the Hi Power, regardless of whether the license expired after it was manufactured. But feel free to keep the helpful posts coming... Huh? 
Okay, I'll play along with your comparison of your parents marriage & divorce to the FN licensing agreement with Argentina . As you were born during their marriage, you would continue to have the same "legitimate" status, but any children born after their divorce would not. Whether they divorced after your birth does not affect your status as a "legitimate" birth. Similiarly, a FN licensed Hi Power produced by FM of Argentina in 1968 continues to be a FN licensed copy today. A Hi Power produced after the license expired does not. My "reasoning" has nothing to do with it. It's simply fact and a matter of law that the FN license expired. Anything produced after that is not licensed. But don't take my word for it- ask a lawyer. The requirements for the license from FN included adherence to factory specs. As has been noted on many a Hi Power forum, the Hi Powers produced in Argentina by FM differ greatly in quality of materials, fit, finish and even design. Current FM's have a 1911 style slide instead of the authentic Hi Power design. You can't just toss out "it's a licensed copy" as if that is a fits all category. Whether you like it or not, a "licensed" copy of the HP carries more value than a bootleg, counterfeit or clone. |