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9/11/2015 7:17:46 AM EDT
I know this seems dumb, but it is a legitimate issue of mine.
I always loved cz looking at them andloved watching video reviews of the sp01
While handling a cz in my local shop i realize how short the height of the pistols slide is.

It kinda felt difficult to grab on to, im nervous if i buy one it will be hard to manipulate with gloves or with sweaty hands.


Do any of you have this issue? How do you overcome it.

I love czs and want one badly but thisis my only issue with it
9/11/2015 8:05:30 AM EDT
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I have a CZ 75D compact PCR and love it. One of the best pistols I have and it's inspired me to buy more CZ's.
9/11/2015 9:30:30 AM EDT
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I know this seems dumb, but it is a legitimate issue of mine.




I always loved cz looking at them andloved watching video reviews of the sp01




While handling a cz in my local shop i realize how short the height of the pistols slide is.
It kinda felt difficult to grab on to, im nervous if i buy one it will be hard to manipulate with gloves or with sweaty hands.
Do any of you have this issue? How do you overcome it.
I love czs and want one badly but thisis my only issue with it
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It might take a little adjustment to get used to but you should be fine.  
After you buy your first one you'll sell almost everything else in your handgun collection and replace them with CZ's.  Then when you handle a different pistol you'll think: "why the heck is this stupid slide so huge?"
I can't imagine someone who titles themselves a "Knuckle Dragging All Purpose Guerrilla" would have hands to dainty to rack the slide on a CZ.    You'll be fine.
 
 
 
 
9/11/2015 10:56:43 AM EDT
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I know this seems dumb, but it is a legitimate issue of mine.  I always loved CZ's, looking at them, and loved watching video reviews of the SP01.  

While handling a CZ in my local shop I realize how short the height of the pistols slide is.  It kinda felt difficult to grab onto; and I'm nervous if I buy one it will be hard to manipulate with gloves or with sweaty hands.  

Do any of you have this issue?  How do you overcome it.  I love CZ's and want one badly but this is my only issue with it.
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 Yours is a valid question; and just about the only possible imperfection with CZ's, otherwise, excellent inside-the-frame rail design.  What are you doing?  Do you operate your slides by using the, 'slingshot' or, 'H.O.T.' method of slide manipulation?  

With a CZ you've got two choices:  The first is to use the amply oversized slide stop/release; and the second is to use the Hand-Over-Top method of slide manipulation.  I've used both.  Most of my life I used the slide stop/release on my 1911 pattern/P-35 pistols.  Always worked fine for me.  In the mid 90's I began to (occasionally) shoot Glock pistols with their minimal (and I've always thought, 'flimsy') slide stops/release.  

It's at about this time that the question of, 'How' a shooter manipulates his pistol's slide began to be an issue; (and rightly so)!  Today, I carry a Glock; and, quite frankly, I'm both aware of as well as used to, 'Glock idiosyncrasies'.  It was late 2003 before I began to seriously handle Glock pistols; and with a Glock you really do have to be concerned with how you're going to manipulate the slide in the midst of a stressful situation.  

With a pistol like a Glock - with its minimalist (almost an, ‘afterthought’) type of slide stop/release - there is little, or no question that using the Hand-Over-Top method of slide manipulation is the safest and most certain way to go; but, ....... with a CZ - with its much larger and more substantial type of slide stop/release - this might not, necessarily, be true.  

I went through many years of my life being perfectly content with using the slide stop/releases on my 1911/P-35’s.  Through thousands and thousands of fired rounds, and thousands of magazine changes I never had any sort of problem getting a slide to reliably let go.  So, what am I telling you?  I’m saying that whether or not you have a problem with the manipulation of your pistol’s slide is dependent upon several factors:  

(1)  How substantial is the slide stop/release on your particular pistol?  If it’s large and well-built like the one on a CZ-SP01, ‘Shadow’ then, right from the get-go, you shouldn’t have a problem.  

(2)  If it’s thin, flimsy, and small with a tendency to break - like all of the slide stops are on all of my Glocks - then you might have a problem with trying to manipulate it.  

(3)  What kind of CQB gunfighter are you?  As difficult as it might be for someone who spends a lot of time on internet gun forums to accept:  Not everybody suffers from a loss of fine motor control while undergoing stress.  (Amazing, isn’t it!)  

A while ago, when I broke one of my fingers, I suddenly discovered that it was difficult for me to rack a pistol slide; but I still wanted to shoot; so, …… what to do?  I found that on a pistol like a Glock it was just as easy for me to, ‘slingshot’ the front of a Glock’s slide, as it was for me to use my thumb on the slide release of a 1911 or P-35.  (I mean it was no, ‘big deal’, really.  I'd already been using Browning-design slide releases for most of my life, anyway.)  

The only thing I know of that can make manipulating a pistol’s slide genuinely difficult is when you’ve got a large amount of fresh wet blood on your hand(s).  Forget about losing fine motor control; that’s for sissies.  Fresh wet blood is slippery as all hell; and you’re not going to be able to hang onto anything that’s non:absorbent like metal.  (What is worse, I suspect that any such person would already going to be out of the fight.)  

Loss of fine motor control, or gloves, or sweat on your hands might stop you from successfully using a pistol’s slide stop/release; but wet blood, or an already damaged hand certainly will.  Neither is working the slide stop/release on a CZ, or a 1911 pattern/P-35 the same thing as working the slide stop/release on a Glock.  (It’s NOT an, ‘apples for apples’ comparison.)  

Personally I’d give, ‘my eye teeth’ to own a custom, factory-built, CZ-SP01, 'Shadow' pistol; and, in the eyes of this older gunman, I think your worries have been brought about by nothing more than, perhaps, spending too much time on internet gun forums.  
9/11/2015 11:21:45 AM EDT
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Reach over the top and grip slide with your 4 fingertips on one side and heel of palm on the other. This gives you significant purchase even on the sliver of exposed slide a CZ offers. Bare down and rack it.  No problemo.

9/11/2015 1:04:50 PM EDT
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Reach over the top and grip slide with your 4 fingertips on one side and heel of palm on the other. This gives you significant purchase even on the sliver of exposed slide a CZ offers. Bare down and rack it.  No problemo.

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Roger that. Looks like im gonna be cz shopping here soon
9/11/2015 8:59:24 PM EDT
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Reach over the top and grip slide with your 4 fingertips on one side and heel of palm on the other. This gives you significant purchase even on the sliver of exposed slide a CZ offers. Bare down and rack it.  No problemo.



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I always pinched out of bad habit. Immediately after buying a CZ, I know do this reverse grip on everything. It didn't take long to adapt. Now I even do it under stress (competition).

 
9/13/2015 12:29:34 PM EDT
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99.5% of the time I'm shooting my 75s with Kadet kits. Compared to that, the slide real estate I have available to grab on the 9mm top ends is huge.
9/13/2015 12:47:06 PM EDT
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I use my thumb and the side of my index finger to slingshot it usually.  Hand over top works too.  It's not bad once you get used to it, just a little different.