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10/21/2005 6:28:08 AM EDT
Found a deal on a pair of  Hi-point guns......45 and 9mm.  These things any good?
10/21/2005 6:29:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Garboo...run fast and far away.  Unless of course you like weapons exploding in your hands and face.
10/21/2005 6:31:38 AM EDT
[#2]
LOL....Fair enough.  Thanks for the heads-up....running away now.  
10/21/2005 6:31:49 AM EDT
[#3]
Absolute garbage.

10/21/2005 6:35:12 AM EDT
[#4]
I heard the carbines aren't bad. It beats the shit out of throwing rocks
That bad huh?
10/21/2005 6:39:45 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I heard the carbines aren't bad. It beats the shit out of throwing rocks
That bad huh?



Ehhh, hate to burst your bubble about the 9mm carbine, but I feel they suck too.  The one and only (thankfully) experience I had with one was poor.  It felt flimsy, the trigger sucked ass (almost as bad as a Kel-Tec), and it had more felt recoil than my 30-06, seriously.  20 rounds and my shoulder was bruised.  I was honestly afraid the thing was going to fall apart in my hands.  MJD
10/22/2005 8:31:39 AM EDT
[#6]
a few friends have the 9mm model, i've shot them, one had FTF ever other round, the other runs fine, the sights are off, bent, they are very top heavy, hell, i can't even figure out how to take them apart, neither can the guys that bought them. Personally...if your looking for a cheap .45, get a ruger, or a police trade in like others here have said. Or look at the used 1911's or RIA's..they are cheap and imported...but a helluva lot better than Hi Point or LLama.
10/23/2005 9:54:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Utter trash
10/27/2005 6:53:57 AM EDT
[#8]
I've never owned a HiPoint pistol, but I've heard a lot of negatives about them.

I DO own a HiPoint 995 Carbine, and in my personal experience it's a great firearm.

I purchased my 995 Carbine after reading the "Gun Test" article (several years ago) comparing the HiPoint to a Ruger that costs twice as much.  The HiPoint came out the winner, and I bought one just to see what all the fuss was about.

My HiPoint was (I think) around $149.00.   It has been 100% reliable with modern ammo (some wwwb causes malfunctions in several of my 9's, so I don't count any experience with them.  Most wwwb is just fine for plinking, but some batches are pure merde.)  The HiPoint has been very accurate.   I put a "red dot" scope on it, and it's a ball to plink with.  

I don't know how these things work, but I've had nothing but good results with my HiPoint 995 Carbine, my KelTec P32, and my KelTec P11.   All three have performed great from day one, and yet I still see negative posts bout them being POS's or SNS's.  Mine have all been tremendous values and my wife likes the P32 for herself.  

Another firearms manufacturer that remains below the American gun buyers radar is the Bersa/Firestorm line.  I have the Firestorm FS22 and it has become my favorite trail/plinker in 22cal.  I liked it so much I bought the Bersa Thunder 9 (Ultra Compact) and it too has been an exceptional value.

All to say that every manufacturer has its admirers and detracters..  I had a couple of Glock 26's when they were first sold and never liked them..  I got rid of them, but legions of folks swear by the plastic pistols.  

Lots of folks knock Star pistols, but I bought a sweet little BM for about $130 or so, and it's a great little firearm.   Reliable with ball ammo, accurate, and just fits neat in the palm..

All above is just my personal opinion.. Acutally "old fart opinion", so take it all with a grain of salt.

Best Wishes,
JP  
10/27/2005 6:46:39 PM EDT
[#9]
From what I gather, theirm pistols are crap, but the carbine is an excellent value.
11/1/2005 9:30:27 PM EDT
[#10]
I have a 9mm pistol.  Its ok.  It was my first handgun.  Cool for the money.  Lifetime warranty.   Looks more like a stapler than a gun on the inside.  Balance and ergonomics aint great.  

I since got a CZ52.  Ill take that any day.  
11/3/2005 9:45:44 AM EDT
[#11]
Pure junk. great for gun turn ins and throw downs. Guy here at work has 1 it has the self ejecting mag option . self ejects while carrying . yep thats what he stakes his safety on.
11/3/2005 10:03:34 AM EDT
[#12]
You know all the bullshit about Glocks going Kaboom that you hear?  That's actually hi points and people that can't tell the difference.
11/3/2005 10:12:05 AM EDT
[#13]
I was with a friend of mine when his HP 9mm went full auto...

Then the slide broke off the frame...

nice cuts on his hand...

bottom line:

O M G dont buy a high point!
11/3/2005 10:12:22 AM EDT
[#14]
I don't know if they work or not...for me it's beside the point.

They look like a crack addict who talks to space aliens (and the aliens were messing with him) designed them.
11/3/2005 11:16:11 AM EDT
[#15]
LOL you guys are brutal.  I aint sticking up for the ugly duckling, but it aint THAT bad?
11/3/2005 11:20:45 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
LOL you guys are brutal.  I aint sticking up for the ugly duckling, but it aint THAT bad?

YES, it is
11/3/2005 12:42:05 PM EDT
[#17]
They're terribble.

Kcobean, buy them to shoot.  And I dont mean out of.....


Quoted:
LOL you guys are brutal.  I aint sticking up for the ugly duckling, but it aint THAT bad?

11/3/2005 3:48:13 PM EDT
[#18]
LOL...I gotcha, thanks!  I'll be sure to pick one up for.....target practice



Quoted:
They're terribble.

Kcobean, buy them to shoot.  And I dont mean out of.....



Quoted:
LOL you guys are brutal.  I aint sticking up for the ugly duckling, but it aint THAT bad?




11/3/2005 3:52:12 PM EDT
[#19]
YEa yea, your going to buy em anyway

Just because Im curious, what are you going to pay for the pair?  I'd say around 50-75 bucks?

11/3/2005 3:58:16 PM EDT
[#20]
I'd prefer plastic to potmetal any day.
11/8/2005 4:01:17 AM EDT
[#21]
I also have the  carbine and have borrowed my friend's hi-point 9mm compact on occassion.  My carbine is utterly reliable and prints similar groups on paper as my SUB2000.  As for the handgun, it is also utterly reliable and surprisingly accurate for what I was expecting.  I keep seeing people posting "I heard from a friend" or "My friend had this happen..."  Has anyone actually had firsthand experience with these before commenting on them?  

I think the biggest detractor to these weapons is that they are ugly and heavy; not that they are unreliable or inaccurate.  I have fired thousands of rounds out of the carbine and around 300 rounds out of the 9mm compact version with no jams or explosions.

Personally, I would never buy one of their handguns (just because they are so bulky and ugly), but given the performance of the 995 carbine, I would purchase another one in a heart beat if that's all I could afford.
11/8/2005 4:13:52 AM EDT
[#22]
My son has a HP 9mm carbine and I've really been impressed with it. He absolutely loves the thing. I recommend them to anyone who asks.

Their pistols are crap from what I've seen and tried. The first one I ever handled was so loose that I thought the slide was going to fall off. You could roll it from side to side and hear the slide banging against the frame.


11/8/2005 4:15:02 AM EDT
[#23]
My cousin went with me to a gun show several years ago. He had $200 in his pocket and he was determined to buy a handgun. I couldn't talk him out of the 9mm Hipoint. I tried to get him to wait, save the money until he had another $200 to go with it and buy a XD-9 or something. He bought the damn thing. It is the junkiest piece of crap. It feels like cast iron. It grinds together when you cycle the action. It's heavy & bulky. On his, the mag won't eject. You have to hold the mag release and pull hard. It misfeeds at least one round per mag. The worst though... it can't hit a pistol target from 5 yards. Doesn't even hit the paper. Sprays in a random direction like the ejected shell off the top of an SKS.

OTOH, I personally own the carbine. I got it from a friend who wanted to trade some old stereo equipment for it. It's a fun little gun. Not the most accurate in the world, but certainly is good for a pop can at 25 yards. Plinking in the backyard sort of thing when you want to jump up from the 10/22 to something slightly larger, but still cheap.

I still wouldn't buy one though.
11/8/2005 5:09:30 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Found a deal on a pair of  Hi-point guns......45 and 9mm.  These things any good?




11/8/2005 5:21:24 AM EDT
[#25]
The carbines are great for what they are. We had one in 9mm as a rental at the FFL I used to work at and it was an accurate little shooter, never had a problem from it running cheap range ammo. Other than that I'd stay away from the line.
11/8/2005 12:12:47 PM EDT
[#26]
The handguns are ugly and heavy, but it works exceptionaly well for the money.  I have had more CCI Blazer rounds fail to fire than the gun.  It always ejects too.  Sometimes it would jam on the feed ramp but a little polishing made it all better.  The mags drop free.  

I did have one that fell on the floor and exploded apart and all the bullets went everywhere- not cool.   A little JB fixed that....

Granted, it aint a Glock or XD.  Its a POS $150 gun.  But it does the job.

I dont know if its the gun or me, but I cant hit anything of any substance with it.  I think its me though, because I cant hit anything with the CZ or SKS either.  

If I could do it over, I wouldnt have bought it.  There are so many better guns for the money.  I love my $100 CZ52 and would rather have bought that or a Mak instead.  
11/8/2005 12:32:59 PM EDT
[#27]
How bout' good garbage??
11/9/2005 4:05:23 AM EDT
[#28]
I'd personally take one over a jennings any day.....
11/9/2005 4:14:38 AM EDT
[#29]
My first pistol was a Hi Point 45, but I sold it to get a RIA 1911.  It was really ugly and heavy, but it would feed everything but Blazer reliably.  I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside with it, but I suck at shooting handguns anyway.  I wouldn't buy another and I certainly stake my life on it, but it worked well for a plinker.

John
11/21/2005 1:22:33 AM EDT
[#30]
I wouldn't pay 87 dollars for one.
11/27/2005 12:59:56 AM EDT
[#31]
i had a hi-point in 45 yeah ugly not sexy in any way kinda looks like a toy really you just need to paint the tip of the barrel and you wouldnt' know the differnce i got one  for like 170 new in the box  i think but did it shoot like it was a kimber in it's past life cold barrel  hot barrel  after like 100 rounds non stop same small groups not perfect but dam good for the price its always i mean always ejected sold it to a friend hes never complained about the functionand we put like maybe 800 rounds through it since i got it  just wished it looked prettier i guess i got that good batch of hipoints cause three years running still haven't had a jam just a failure to feed twice in the break in period though and it's not picky about ammo either put white box fmj to wolf hardball to what i can get my hands on. i guess arizona gets all the good stuff cause i never heard nothing bad happening to hipoints here.thing is though it's only a range gun if i could i'd get a glock 21 in heart beat over the hipoint but like i said for the price that guns proformance  is awsome show me a semiauto in that  price new ands its junk
11/27/2005 1:21:00 AM EDT
[#32]
Garbage, peice O junk
11/27/2005 9:41:35 AM EDT
[#33]
I had a 9mm.
It was good for what it was.
Never had any problems with it except that it was a pain in the ayn to clean.
I'm not about hammering out pins to clean a weapon. Shit a MK19 is easier to maintain.
Gave mine to a friend.
My only real complaint is that it didn't fit my hand too well.

Hi Point is a good choice for the weapon you need to keep under the seat of  your pick up where you won't mind if it gets covered in cola syrup and gum.
12/1/2005 11:44:21 AM EDT
[#34]
The gun uses the firing pin as the extractor , even live rounds that are being removed from the chamber are having pressure directly applied to the primer. The parts in side are weak , that is why some go full auto. the safety is a joke and dose very little to prevent the inner workings to be subject to an oops. The striker remains at full cock , much like a 1911 only the 1911 allows you to lower the hammer. The gun by basic make is lacking very much , I would go as far as to say unsafe with one in the hole. I have handled and shot a few, they do work but i would call anything made as cheap as them trustworthy. It is a modern Saturday night special , nothing more.
12/4/2005 2:16:07 PM EDT
[#35]
It is a pain to clean.  You do have to hammer a pin out.

And your also rigth that it isnt a "safe" gun.  The firinging pin is held back by the sear.  The saftey blocks the sear from falling.  If there is any verticle play in the slide, you may get an "ooops" more like a bang.  I know, theres one in my floor.  I definitely dont have one in the hole unless Im shooting.

It currently resides under my seat.  It continually gets wet and stuff spilled on it.  Again, dont trust it to be chambered.  I wounldnt mind this one being taken away if need be, so thats why it gets the job.  

I wouldnt buy another one.  For the money, get a CZ or other mil surp.  
12/10/2005 9:22:33 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Found a deal on a pair of  Hi-point guns......45 and 9mm.  These things any good?



Yes, they do make a quality boat anchor in a pinch.

Also they're good at filling up the evidence room at work as we get a lot in confiscations...  
12/13/2005 5:29:22 PM EDT
[#37]
I have one that I won in a raffle.  It's plenty accurate:

pics.apartment808.com/users/lagadelphia/closeup.jpg

Now I wouldn't spend money on one but I was pleasently suprised at how well mine shot.