Posted: 3/27/2006 8:59:48 AM EDT
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Not seeing much discussion here on the 357 lots on the 40 and 45ACP... so does anyone have a 357 Sig and how do you like? How is the recoil also? Thanks, I'm thinking about picking one up soon. Justin |
| .357 SIG is a fun round. Loud as hell. I have the conversion barrel for my XD40. I find the recoil to be faster, but not as whippy as the .40. The only problem I have with the round is its price and availability. Not everybody has it, and when they do, it's like $14/50. You can't beat 500+ lbs. of muzzle energy though. MJD |
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Its a good round. If you can persuade one to jam, you will make the Guiness Book of Records. Its recoil is slightly softer than a .40S&W. In terms of stopping power, its probably as good as you can get. The only real drawback it has is the "Not invented in America" problem. |
Interesting. I find the .357 to be very accurate, moreso than the .40. That could be because my EFK Firedragon is a stainless match barrel and the .40 is a box stock chrome-moly. MJD |
| I have a 357 sig in the glock 32.... very potent round, but i dont find it as fun to shoot as my 45,40, or 9.... probably its because of the price.... the only other problem I see with it is over penetration.... extremely fast round and probably wont over penetrate my target if I have to use it in a real world scenario, but there is a better chance of it than with any of my other calibers.... Id recommend the 40 or 45.... much more common caliber and better variety at stores.... |
It is my understanding that the early .357 SIG loadings were constructed of materials that were too hard to expand reliably in order to stand up to the uber-fast velocity. New designs, and materials have solved the over-penetration issue as long as good ammo is used. Speer Gold-Dots or Winchester Ranger T's fared very well in testing. In gel testing, the .357 SIG round didn't penetrate any more than the best 9mm's, .40's, or .45's. That begs the question, "if everything performs equally, then what's the point of this round?" It's been called the "solution to a problem that doesn't exist." I don't care what the detractors say, it's a cool round. MJD |
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It penetrates and fragments like other rounds, but the real advantage is as with the normal 357 and the .45 -- its the amount of kinetic energy it dumps into the target in the process. There is more to man stoppers than just the size of the hole it makes and how far it penetrates. The hydrostatic shock to the whole body counts for a lot too -- its hard to see that in a gelatin block. |
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I think youd be better off going with the .40. The .357SIG is more of a novelty round. Very few places (here) stock the ammo and the ones that do ask an arm and a leg for it. You want to shoot cheap, get the 9. If you want to knock em down get the .45, but if you want a good mix of both, get the .40. I also read something about over-penetration??? What does it matter when your shooting steel or paper? If you had to shoot someone, I think 1 bullet would work just fine and if it didnt, you still have 11 more in the magazine. But thats just me..... If I was going to buy another XD, this time I would definitely get the .45 although I am more than pleased with my V-10 .40 |
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Just picked up a new 357 Service model for $439.99 but haven't had a chance to break it in yet. I also ordered a set of Dawson Front & Rear Low Profile Fiber Optic Sights. When they come in I am going to have the slide, slide stop, take down lever, and mag release refinished in Coyote Brown before I install them. Mine is an '05 not an '06 model and the slide doesn't look like the Armory Kote being used on the newer ones, so having it refinishing will be a plus. MadDog 
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A parftial list of agencies using the .357Sig round... Alameda County Delaware State Police (First to adopt the 357 SIG) Dallas, Texas Police Federal Air Marshals Federal Protective Services (FPS) Special Agents for General Services Administration (GSA) - P229 Keizer Police Department, Oregon La Porte County Indiana Sheriff's Department Laurence County Sheriff's Office, Tennessee Las Vegas Metro Police (allowed use of) Liberty Twp Police Dept, Ohio Maine Aroostook County Sheriff's Office Maine Game Wardens (P226) Maricopa County [Phoenix] Arizona Sheriff's Office/MCSO Montcalm County (Michigan) Sheriff's Office New Jersey Division of Fish & Game New Mexico State Police Niles Police Dept, Ohio Northwood Police Dept, ND NC Highway Patrol NC Wake County Sheriff's Department NC Wildlife Enforcement Officers Nueces County Sheriff Department, Texas (Sigpro) Oakland County Sheriff's Dept, Michigan Orange Police Dept, CT (sig pro, SP2340 .357) Orlando PD (plainclothes officers) Oxford, Mississippi Richmond, Virginia Rocky Mount Police Dept, Rocky Mount, NC Springfield, IL Tennessee Highway Patrol Union County Sheriff's Office, Marysville, Ohio (Glock 31) Texas, DPS United States (GSA) - Office of Inspector General (OIG) Special Agents - P229 United States Secret Service Virginia State Police There are more today. |
| I love the .357 SIG round. Availability and price isn't much of an issue when I buy in bulk. It gobbles down Georgia Arms canned heat reloads like it's going out of style for practice ammo. It likes CorrBonn for self defense ammo, but I'm fixin' to try some GA for that as well. |
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Just put a couple hundred rounds through my new XD357 and it runs 100%. Think I am going to purchase 1,000r rounds from Georgia Arms to keep it fed. I have one of the full length guide rods and 24 lb. spring on order as well as a pair of Heini Slant Pro Straight Eight night sights. As soon as the sights come in I am going to have the slide, takedown lever, and slide stop done in the same Coyote Brown as my SA Champion pictured below. MadDog 
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thanks for the info
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